Chiron Democratic Coalition

[jdd2007]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


I don't remember seeing him nominate himself in the nomination thread....Maybe I should check again. Edit: Checked again.

Also, has anyone noticed that CDC also stands for the american "Centers for Disease Control". Could there be a relation?

i mentioned the CDC thing, and i distinctly remember Vlad announcing his candidacy

[Pandemoniak]

Juliennew, are you trying to say that you never had in mind to ally with the CP ? And that you are not close to them ?

[DeathByTheSword]

We as P4 decide that allying at this time is not our best option and we will only ally with parties that share our common goal which you can read here

[Pandemoniak]

Originally posted by Juliennew in the P4 thread 07-08-2002 18:34

Yes, the CDC is worrying me since the CCCP joined ...
Agreed with TKG, we should ally with the capitalist party.

Welcome Archaic !!

[DeathByTheSword]

yes but that was yesterday we now have an official response. you got this from our thread where all our discussion are been held. all kind of idea come up then but today there has been decide that we will not yet think of any alliance that will change our policies. if people or parties want to join we are not against that but that will mean that they believe in the policy we have right now. this will not mean a alliance.

[Pandemoniak]

But you're close to them, and I m just telling the CDC that there can be an alliance between you for a specific purpose (ie running for a specific seat, or something). Thus we must not think our coalition has the more members, since you and CP can have an unofficial agreement for a specific question and with same effects that a coalition.

[Method]

we have no agreements with the CP either official or unofficial.

Pande-please don't go nuts over my new avatar...

[DeathByTheSword]

I have heard some rumors that some parties are already giving eachother diretories in exchange for votes....i do not yet know if this rumors are right and if P4 will particapate in this wave of changing loyalties....so that why I have to say no comment (and I really do not no not the entire party is online so i do not know)

but can you please tell me why the CCCP joined the CDC there 'pigs' in there ranks too (i believe) and I taught that the CCCP believed in a one-party system without help of others ( )

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
I have heard some rumors that some parties are already giving eachother diretories in exchange for votes....i do not yet know if this rumors are right and if P4 will particapate in this wave of changing loyalties....so that why I have to say no comment (and I really do not no not the entire party is online so i do not know)

but can you please tell me why the CCCP joined the CDC there 'pigs' in there ranks too (i believe) and I taught that the CCCP believed in a one-party system without help of others ( )

“An enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

Hell, I’ve seen stranger coalitions than between Communists and Greens in real life. It all comes down to necessity, to get seats you are forced to ally yourself with someone who you many not want to. And likewise to prevent those who you do not want to see in power, concessions have to be made for the lesser of two evils.

[DeathByTheSword]

yes and the saying goes: that you have to keep your friend close but your enemies even closer. but remember when he is at an armlength away we will stab you (and not always in the back )

[Pandemoniak]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
But can you please tell me why the CCCP joined the CDC there 'pigs' in there ranks too (i believe) and

I havent seen any pigs in any CDC congress, except for that time someone rushed in and interrupted the congress to say his word.

I tought that the CCCP believed in a one-party system without help of others ( )

I dont know where you got that, there's no reference to a unique party in the CCCP line. If you are referring to Marxism, you'd better know that Marx never supported a one party system. Actually, his main politic theory, what is mostly know under the name of communism, has the goal to suppress the notion of state itself. Since social classes struggles is the engine of history, you can then abolish social classes, stop history, and therefore abolish state itself.
But if there's no state, there's no party at all, just citizens.

Moreover, the CCCP is more attached to Marx's economical theories than to his political theories.

Read "Le Capital".

Note that this discussion shouldnt occur in the CDC congress, though. So if you want to discuss that with me, please meet me at the CCCP headquarters.

[Method]

so, what you're saying is, you dont want P4 in power

[Pandemoniak]

I am just saying I will do everything needed to assure the wellbeing and happiness of all citizens. Free Market makes one people happy for a hundred people starving.

[Method]

oh, im sorry. i was referring to voltaire's post. you see, yours and DBTS's posts didn't come up until after i posted that.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by TKG
oh, im sorry. i was referring to voltaire's post. you see, yours and DBTS's posts didn't come up until after i posted that.

Not at all, it’s just that to ensure ones own side gets into power you have to prevent others from doing so. As a matter of fact the differences between the P4 and the CDC pail in comparison to those between the CDC and the ACE; if CDC members cannot take a certain position in government I would much rather see the P4 take it over the ACE (well at least over the Hawk party anyway).