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  • #16
    Originally posted by Maniac
    If only SAM choppers would be allowed pre-Fusion, I'd vote for "All attacks allowed".
    This is confusing me somewhat.

    If "all attacks allowed?, what is the status post-Fusion? Back to "Chop & Drop"?

    Maybe the option should be "Only SAM Choppers allowed, any reactor, attack any time" That way there'd always be a 50% ground attack penalty and a defender in a base would also get the intrinsic base defense of 25%, increased with AAA ability and Aerospace bonus.

    Noodles (or missiles) would then be the preferred method of attacking bases from the air

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    • #17
      Although I was content with Choppers being reduced in moves, I'm all for knobbling them further.
      Consul.

      Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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      • #18
        Sadly, with the proposal to limit choppers to SAM only, changing what choppers are allowed to do post-fusion, etc, this poll seems to have become void. I think we may need to repoll this one, and include more options. I'll leave the next version to someone else though.
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        • #19
          This is confusing me somewhat.

          If "all attacks allowed?, what is the status post-Fusion? Back to "Chop & Drop"?

          Maybe the option should be "Only SAM Choppers allowed, any reactor, attack any time" That way there'd always be a 50% ground attack penalty and a defender in a base would also get the intrinsic base defense of 25%, increased with AAA ability and Aerospace bonus.


          Yes, but post-fusion people should have AAA and Aerospace complexes, so the SAM limitation won't be needed. Choppers will die vs that combination.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Jamski
            Choppers will die vs that combination.
            -Jam
            But isn't that exactly the intent of our messing with Choppers? To make them extremely expensive to use agaisnt bases?

            As it stands, they are the game's UberUnit. Building regular choppers for tankbusting/crawler rampaging, or empath ones for wormhunting (with SAM for locust eating) I've no problem with. It's when they get to attack a base seven or 8 times in one turn (and if nervegas equipped, each successful hit halves the base's population) that it gets ridiculous.

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            • #21
              So then we have four options:

              1. Choppers must be built with SAM til Fusion AND cannot attack bases at any point.
              2. Choppers must be built with SAM til Fusion BUT can attack bases after fusion.
              3. Choppers can be built with or without SAM, BUT cannot attack bases at any point.
              4. Choppers can be built with or without SAM at any point and are unrestricted in their attacks.

              Option 4 has already been shot down in polls, so that leaves 1, 2 or 3. 1 seems extremely harsh, penalising choppers twice. 2 or 3 both seem quite feasable. I'm leaning towards 3 at the moment.

              Thoughts, comments? Have I missed an option?
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              • #22
                I vote for proposal number one.
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                • #23
                  I would like to vote for 3.
                  Be good, and if at first you don't succeed, perhaps failure will be back in fashion soon. -- teh Spamski

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                  • #24
                    Also going with 3, its the most simple and easy to understand.
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                    • #25
                      My vote is for 3 - doesn't involve any change to alphax.txt, just circumscribing their use

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                      • #26
                        Three is the best option, yes.
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                        • #27
                          Numéros trios.
                          He who knows others is wise.
                          He who knows himself is enlightened.
                          -- Lao Tsu

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                          • #28
                            English please. This is not mafffia Geo.
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                            • #29
                              --> 011
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                              • #30
                                So now we're going back on the poll to reduce Choppers' movement?

                                Option 1.
                                Consul.

                                Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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