What is the status of the game??

[Mart]

Originally posted by Jamski
... It would make the game a lot less prone to "bullying" by which I mean the rich getting together to rob the poor.

-Jam

Do people really play mostly this way?
If yes, where is the spirit of competition, honor?

[DeathByTheSword]

honor is a antiquated idea...spirit of competition...i see some sense in that

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by Jamski
I agree with you too. The bitterness has only to do with the people involved, nothing to do with the format of the game.
-Jam

Can I agree too?
It is just plain stupid to hate someone because of a game. If it causes bitterness the you shoulnd`t play it.

Why abandon idea of a multifactional game? Why not instead make it run on larger map with conditions that we simply prevent early conflict or buildups.

[Jamski]

Why abandon idea of a multifactional game? Why not instead make it run on larger map with conditions that we simply prevent early conflict or buildups.

I'd say to play on a smaller map, and ENJOY the conflict. And as far as I was aware, the general feel was that the next ACDG would also be a team game.

-Jam

[Impaler[WrG]]

You know with the proper Alpha Editing we can set the pacing of the game to our liking, making it defensive when we want to or more agressive later on.

On and we did realize half way through the war with PEACE that we had gained most of the possible rewards already and further bases just added Buracracy Drones. So we offered PEACE a Unification inwhich their members would join our forum and a number of captured bases would be returned to PEACE and we would continue from that point as alies. They turned us down unfortunatly, we noticed Uni seemed to be falling apart at that point so we offered the same deal to them and low and behond they accepted.

Also as for Hive and Drones reaching MMI, the tecs they stole from Uni were what alowed them to get it, Tecs from PEACE were rather inconsiquential, the largest prize the Planetary Energy Grid we managed to build before they got their hands on it. When you add it up Cycon did incresse its own power greatly at the expense of PEACE, but your correct that a cooperative perma-pacted Cycon/PEACE would have been more powerfull. But as I said earlier I consider PermaPacting to be against the spirit of the game, conditional and guarded aliances are ok.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
You know with the proper Alpha Editing we can set the pacing of the game to our liking, making it defensive when we want to or more agressive later on.

I meant also editing alphax file to slow the game.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by obstructor
I meant also editing alphax file to slow the game.

Easy, Min/Growth to 15/15, and enable slow research in the startup screen.

[Illuminatus]

Exactly, plus perhaps playing on larger than huge map with lots of fungus and fungal towers
But this would be to much.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by obstructor
If it causes bitterness the you shoulnd`t play it.

If that were true, then many players would not be here
I'm not going ot name names, of course

[DeathByTheSword]

with the experience of the first acdg i would advice agaisnt a huge map...nothing will happen then and the game will become boring very soon

[Jamski]

Do we WANT to slow down the game? Its already taken a year to play 60-ish turns. We could slow the game down if we could also keep all teams within the 24 hour limit, or even faster.

-Jam

[Vev]

What I was disappointed in this game was the length of time required before the teams met and could discuss. Also, everything was so hushed up and quiet and there is so much you can discuss outside the faction without giving anything away and there is so much you can discuss inside the team with the limited numbers without running out of topics.

I once had a crazy idea where all teams started off inflitrated with each other so that we can casually observe and gossip without fear of giving base information anything away. Of course, faction future plans are still kept within the private forums.

Does anyone see any exploit to this or is it fair enough for all?

Problem with this is that it gives the Data Angels a head start. If that is the AI, well they need all the help they can get. If humans, *shudders*.

[Jamski]

Nice idea actually Vev

-Jam

[MrWhereItsAt]

I'm afraid I have to disagree with everyone who says that MP games do not necessarily lead to bitterness and disputes. I have been in every such game on this site and it happens in all of them, to a far greater extent than any SP game so far. I do speak with many many incidents to back my words up with.

I myself am not bitter at anyone, but in a sense everyone. In fact it is more of a disenchantment, born only of the fact of seeing such annoyances surface again, despite my small attempts to avoid them through provoking better contact between us all.

There are two reasons (IMO) for the feuds in this game. The first is that a multifaction game will always lead to them (I am convinced), and I have yet to be shown an instance of such a game that does not. The second is something we CAN help - the very poor state of communication between our opposing faction members due to the ridiculousness of limiting chatting about the game between faction members. If we can free this restriction up then we may stand a chance, but there will still be problems.

Almost the entire Civ3 ISDG and PtWDG lot know each other and get on fantastically in unrelated chat and PBEMs, but that didn't stop some very nasty inter-team problems in the PtWDG, and even within our own team in the Intersite Game.

Whatever measures are put in place for the next game, I will certainly not be participating if it is another multi-faction game. When you are disappointed or frustrated because of something, you try to change it. If you can't then you get it out of your life so it can stop irritating you. If not enough listen to my past and present experiences and decide a SP game is the way to go, then sadly I will have to forego SMACX DGs until enough people realise that a Single faction game is the only way to avoid the disappointments.

[Jamski]

Please. Change the record. You only want to play a SP demo game. I think we all got that by now...

-Jam