Humane Treatment of Prisoners of War

[Drogue]

Jam: What?

[Maniac]

See Maniac?

Jam: What?

Yes, it's indeed a disgrace what Drogue is writing!

[Jamski]

Yes "Drogue" is very naughty

-Jam

[Drogue]

What I meant was, was the "See Maniac?" meant for me, asking to me look at Maniac's post, or was it for Maniac, telling him to look at my position

[Jamski]

It was "See, Maniac", an imperitive directed to Maniac that he should see. Obviously

-Jam

[Maniac]

The only consistant things are either having a total ban or having the option of joining the conquering faction, who capture their bases and so capture their population. Quota's were a compromise, but one that isn't particularly realistic. It can understand the argument that we aren't flush for players, but we have enough, IMHO. That is why I think either a total ban, as per defections, or joining the conqueror.

I completely agree with Drogue's position.

And I disagree with Voltaire's. IMHO it should not be allowed for one member to tell important gameplay information to another faction without general consent in the member's own faction that it is allowed. Though this would of course give a new and very interesting perspective to the political and diplomatic side of the game, the current format does not make this workable IMHO. Why? Because, since every member has access to the turn, everyone can see all information; and because all plans are openly discussed in the private forum (at least in the CyCon). Unlike in real-life political situations, it is almost impossible to hide any important information from possible infiltrators and spies. So this ACDG can only work decently if the members of a faction can trust each other and don't have to be on their guard all the time that one of them could tell something important to a rival faction.

I would actually like a game very much where you can have factions within factions, and can hide information from other members in your faction, as that would allow for some very fun political roleplaying. But unless we can somehow arrange that, individual members telling confidential info to other factions is a big

Allowing players to join other teams also allow them to setup a government-in-exile in a friendly state

What would be the point of that? If a human faction is eliminated, it can never be revived anyway.

[Snowflake]

Who knows, may be one faction could give that faction a base?

[GeneralTacticus]

We're playing Alien Crossfire, aren't we? Have you forgotten the ability of a probe team to free captured faction leaders?

[Drogue]

Then they cannot join another faction, or they would not be allowed to defect back. They are still members of their faction until the end of the game, because their faction may rise again?

[Jamski]

Does this work in PBEM? Can someone confirm it? If this is the case, all eliminated factions will be put on ice.

-Jam

[GeneralTacticus]

Originally posted by Drogue
Then they cannot join another faction, or they would not be allowed to defect back. They are still members of their faction until the end of the game, because their faction may rise again?

They'd be pretty entwined with the faction that freed them, but I'd say that's as it should be; after all, when an AI is freed, it swears a Pact to serve whoever freed it.

[Maniac]

Who knows, may be one faction could give that faction a base?

Then that faction still lives, and there's no need to make them member of a new faction.

We're playing Alien Crossfire, aren't we? Have you forgotten the ability of a probe team to free captured faction leaders?

Nope. It's just that if a human faction is destroyed the normal way by another faction, the game doesn't work anymore or so. The solution to that is that a faction must obliterate their last base themselves. But then of course, that faction wasn't destroyed by its conqueror and the leader cannot be freed.

[Jamski]

Ah.... that's a shame, I didn't think of that.

-Jam

[GeneralTacticus]

Originally posted by Maniac

Nope. It's just that if a human faction is destroyed the normal way by another faction, the game doesn't work anymore or so. The solution to that is that a faction must obliterate their last base themselves. But then of course, that faction wasn't destroyed by its conqueror and the leader cannot be freed.

Oh, I see. I didn't know that.

[Snowflake]

How about we don't ask them to obliterate the last base, and make it a prison or something, so they are still a team, but they need to sware a pact to the conquering team?