Drake,
Just before I hit the submit button to post my reply to your post in the Community forum, Markos must've hit the 'close thead' button But since I spent the time writing the reply already I'll just be a naugthy boy and post it here instead
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Though I sympathize with your cause, I can only say: "C'est la vie..."
Ming has said it often enough already: the Civ-Mac forum is for Civ discussions, not for Mac discussions. The lack of Mac-related Civ news saddens me as well, but if that's means the Civ-Mac forum dries up, then so be it. It has happened to plenty of other forums in the past and it will happen to other forums in the future. The gaming industry evolves and Apolyton merely evolves with it. Sometimes there is eventually a revival, in which case discussion starts up again. Example: at their zenith (around the release of CtP2), there were a total of 14 active CtP-related forums, at their lowpoint (about a year later) there were only 5 mostly inactive ones. Currently there are 9 fairly active forums with 1 more on it's way (once the source for CtP2 is released) and an option for yet another one.
The same applies to Civ-Mac. If there is no news for a few months, then the forums will dry up, as sad as that may be. If/when more news and interesting developments take place again in the future, the forums will revive; this has been proven time and again in the past. I can't speak for the site's administration, but I think it's safe to say that Civ Mac-gaming will always have a place on Apolyton (just as Civ1, Civ Boardgame and Alt Civs always have, even in their darkest hours), but it will be with ups and down, just like the Civ Mac game industry. In fact, *exactly* like the Civ Mac game industry.
And I'm pretty sure there will be plenty to talk about in the future: Paradox Games (also covered by Apolyton) AFAIK ports all their games to Mac, I think I heard about a MoO3 port to Mac, with the release of CtP2's source code this opens the possibilities of a Mac port and I'm sure that at some point the Civ-line of games (whether it's PtW/C3C or Civ4) will also return to the Mac. So the forum may have reached a dry spot now, but I'm sure it'll be okay in the future.
As for threads that are of interest to the community, I can understand that and a certain amount of that takes place in every forum. Most DG forums have a bar/cafe thread of some sort for off-topic discussions, most General forums (Civ2, Civ3, CtP1, CtP2, SMAC, RoN, etc) have seen plenty of off-topic threads on real history, piracy, general tech discussions, 'what system are you playing on', community news/projects like SETI@Home, Apolyton Meetings, death/birth/marriage/etc of members, etc. Most Creation forums contain plenty of general discussions on how to use Photoshop, what the best editing programs are, programming languages, making movies, etc -- topics that strictly speaking don't belong there either. This is normal and tolerated all over Apolyton.
However, it's usually only a very small percentage of all threads that are like this, the vast majority of discussion is on-topic. This is where it goes wrong for the Mac forum: at present, almost all discussion is off-topic here. A certain amount of off-topic discussion has always existed and been tolerated in the Mac forums and will no doubt continue to exist and be tolerated in the future (though starting such a thread right NOW is probably not a very good idea ), but in the past months it had just gotten completely out of hand.
I really hurts me to see the Civ-Mac forum dry up as well, but if there's (temporarily) just nothing to talk about, there's no point in faking it either...
Just before I hit the submit button to post my reply to your post in the Community forum, Markos must've hit the 'close thead' button But since I spent the time writing the reply already I'll just be a naugthy boy and post it here instead
===
Though I sympathize with your cause, I can only say: "C'est la vie..."
Ming has said it often enough already: the Civ-Mac forum is for Civ discussions, not for Mac discussions. The lack of Mac-related Civ news saddens me as well, but if that's means the Civ-Mac forum dries up, then so be it. It has happened to plenty of other forums in the past and it will happen to other forums in the future. The gaming industry evolves and Apolyton merely evolves with it. Sometimes there is eventually a revival, in which case discussion starts up again. Example: at their zenith (around the release of CtP2), there were a total of 14 active CtP-related forums, at their lowpoint (about a year later) there were only 5 mostly inactive ones. Currently there are 9 fairly active forums with 1 more on it's way (once the source for CtP2 is released) and an option for yet another one.
The same applies to Civ-Mac. If there is no news for a few months, then the forums will dry up, as sad as that may be. If/when more news and interesting developments take place again in the future, the forums will revive; this has been proven time and again in the past. I can't speak for the site's administration, but I think it's safe to say that Civ Mac-gaming will always have a place on Apolyton (just as Civ1, Civ Boardgame and Alt Civs always have, even in their darkest hours), but it will be with ups and down, just like the Civ Mac game industry. In fact, *exactly* like the Civ Mac game industry.
And I'm pretty sure there will be plenty to talk about in the future: Paradox Games (also covered by Apolyton) AFAIK ports all their games to Mac, I think I heard about a MoO3 port to Mac, with the release of CtP2's source code this opens the possibilities of a Mac port and I'm sure that at some point the Civ-line of games (whether it's PtW/C3C or Civ4) will also return to the Mac. So the forum may have reached a dry spot now, but I'm sure it'll be okay in the future.
As for threads that are of interest to the community, I can understand that and a certain amount of that takes place in every forum. Most DG forums have a bar/cafe thread of some sort for off-topic discussions, most General forums (Civ2, Civ3, CtP1, CtP2, SMAC, RoN, etc) have seen plenty of off-topic threads on real history, piracy, general tech discussions, 'what system are you playing on', community news/projects like SETI@Home, Apolyton Meetings, death/birth/marriage/etc of members, etc. Most Creation forums contain plenty of general discussions on how to use Photoshop, what the best editing programs are, programming languages, making movies, etc -- topics that strictly speaking don't belong there either. This is normal and tolerated all over Apolyton.
However, it's usually only a very small percentage of all threads that are like this, the vast majority of discussion is on-topic. This is where it goes wrong for the Mac forum: at present, almost all discussion is off-topic here. A certain amount of off-topic discussion has always existed and been tolerated in the Mac forums and will no doubt continue to exist and be tolerated in the future (though starting such a thread right NOW is probably not a very good idea ), but in the past months it had just gotten completely out of hand.
I really hurts me to see the Civ-Mac forum dry up as well, but if there's (temporarily) just nothing to talk about, there's no point in faking it either...
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