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**trevor** · December 25, 2002, 17:59

tatterdemalion, I kind of left it behind, inspection and all, so I think I'll finish it. BTW, I'll use caliban's verison.

**Caliban** · December 26, 2002, 14:05

Originally posted by trevor
tatterdemalion, I kind of left it behind, inspection and all, so I think I'll finish it. BTW, I'll use caliban's verison.

Ah, yes... in what way?

Originally posted by jsw363
Wouldn't it make sense to include Argentina as a South American civ?

Hm... and the rest of South America? Do you also want to include Brasil and Uruguay? I think Aero's way is best: just one large civ that can still compete with major powers like USA and England... Argentine never was THAT strong.

This would only be interesting for some kind of (North and South) America only scenario...

**trevor** · December 27, 2002, 02:17

Aero's was made for Civ3 not PTW, and I don't know how to convert the files.

**Caliban** · December 27, 2002, 13:30

To convert from standard to PTW format, you could use the Civ3 Multi Tool, which is posted in the Apolyton files forum.

I did it another way: Just rename the file from xxCenturybeta01.bic to xxcenturybeta01.bix and add the new units and buildings in the editor... might sound complicated, but leads to the same result as all other improvements are automatically applied (worker jobs) or not necessary for this scenario (new civilizations).

**Caliban** · January 12, 2003, 17:53

Dammit, guys!

I don't know if anybody has ever been interested in my version of this scenario (looking at the download rate I doubt it) but as far as I am concerned there are far too many bugs (I made Russia start with Panzers instead of Cossacks...) I will release a new version soon... maybe I'll download it myself a few times to strengthen my self-confidence

**tatterdemalion** · January 12, 2003, 23:21

I will

I will probably give it a whirl when it is updated for PtW.

**Caliban** · January 13, 2003, 13:25

What do you mean? It IS updated for PTW (but still buggy), as I've included all these nice new WWII units and new buildings/wonders that came with the expansion...

**tatterdemalion** · January 13, 2003, 13:59

D'oh! Allllllrighty then. I will give it a try when I have some time to sit and play.

thanks for your effort.

**Yurt** · January 13, 2003, 20:42

A few things (hopefully they haven't been said already, I don't have time to read all the posts).

-Salt Lake City (USA) is spelled wrong (Solt lake city)
-Chihuahua (Mexico) is spelled Chiautia (maybe it's a different city, but it's in the same place)
-Dover (British, in Ethiopia) should be moved West a few squares, still on the coast, and named Djibouti.
-Zanzibar was an important colonial traded center, it should be in there too.
-More cities should be placed in Africa, especially around South Africa (Boer War).
-Turn cultural conversions to default off.

Other than that, it's great to finally have a good historical scenario! Unfortunately, it wouldn't load for me (I looked at it with the editor).

**Caliban** · January 14, 2003, 13:34

Originally posted by Yurt
-Salt Lake City (USA) is spelled wrong (Solt lake city)
-Chihuahua (Mexico) is spelled Chiautia (maybe it's a different city, but it's in the same place)
-Dover (British, in Ethiopia) should be moved West a few squares, still on the coast, and named Djibouti.
-Zanzibar was an important colonial traded center, it should be in there too.
-More cities should be placed in Africa, especially around South Africa (Boer War).
-Turn cultural conversions to default off.

1: There are many spelling errors in the game... I'll take a deeper look at this
2: see 1
3: I did this in my new version, will post it tomorrow
4: Zanzibar was just an island Britain got for the German isle of Helgoland. It has no resources or strategic value, so I do not think I'll include it. Dar-es-salam fulfills the purpose of a colonial center perfectly...
5: Agreed! Will do. Africa is just too quiet at the moment.
6: Hm... I think that this is a matter of opinion. Some people like to play with conversions, some like to play without them... I leave it to the player to judge.

Btw, did you look at my version or at the original file by Aeroprinz?

**Yurt** · January 14, 2003, 21:56

I looked at AeroPrinz's version, but I will look at yours soon as well.

**Caliban** · January 15, 2003, 13:39

I just posted version 1.1 of my .bix-file.
You'll find it on PAGE THREE of this thread.

Argh... and I didn't correct the Chiautia spelling error.

**Caliban** · February 4, 2003, 15:42

Hello? Is anyone still playing this scenario?

I would welcome any comments, as I want to further improve the scenario (maybe with local "barbarian" resistance groups, more cities, more nations...)

**AeroPrinz** · March 31, 2003, 08:16

Originally posted by Caliban
Nice scenario. Good work

EDIT: As AeroPrinz has left us for unknown reasons, I have posted a NEW VERSION of this scenario myself. You'll find it at the bottom of PAGE THREE of this threat.

I did not left, Just somehow I had no e-mail notification for this topic, so I have not look here. Right now I have finished new version of this scenario. You can find it on the top of the PAGE ONE.

Thanks for Calaban for improving my work, but to say something to me you could just e-mail it.

**tarpoon** · March 31, 2003, 17:12

The new version looks very good, but you should mention that it is PTW now

I this is what I noticed so far by looking at the map:
Vietnam should have some rubber resources (then you could also remove the rubber from france)
Dusseldorf should have coal (
Indonesia should have at least some iron and maybe one rubber
Europe seems to be a bit low on iron

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