MOD: WW2 Mod, Including Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, new Units etc...

[jinif]

man the only thing I really wish that they would put into Civ3 is the ability to make scenarios. I don't care that much about multiplayer, but I love playing WWII scenarios.

[Jameschipmunk]

This mod looks sweet, but when i try to download it it downloads something called an attachment not the file. How do i d/l it??

All you have to do is click on the download, then instead of just downloading it, rename the download what ever you wish then put a .zip at the end.

Ex: Another-No-Name-MOD-Unrelated-To-The-Original.zip says it is going to save a "Attachment", rename "attachment" another-no-name-mod-unrlated-to-the-original.zip and press enter.

This should work.

[MarcusSaurono]

Have you done anywork on a map or is my download screwed up?

[admiralk]

Thanks i'm gonna try the mod right now.

[Grey Fox]

Originally posted by MarcusSaurono
Have you done anywork on a map or is my download screwed up?

Nope, only random map for now...


(Working on a scenario... let's see if it will ever be ready...)

[Tridotan1]

Hey. You didn't respond to my feedback.

Can you make leader units? Like General Patton and General Rommel, that would be cool and it would add more realism, just throwing in an idea.

Of course and I'll be surprised if Grey Fox hasn't already.

Tridotan 1, Marines have been around for quite some time. France and England have had marines on their warships since the mid 1700's. America has had marines on its naval vessels since the nation came into existance. So, marines outdate commandos, unless I've forgotten something.

Yes they did but not modern marines. This was just a name labelled to them afterwards by historians. The British Commandos of WW2 turned into the Royal Marines as I'm sure the American commandos did etc.
Marines as they are portrayed in the game are the same as commandos.

The Americans had the Hellcat fighter, and the M-18 Hellcat tank destroyer (basically a fast tank designed to kill other tanks)

Cool thanks, nice to be corrected. However this Hellcat tank could not have been significant enough to have placing ahead of the Lee and Sherman. And what the cukoo is the TunderBolt (Thunderbolt?)? As far as I'm aware no such tank existed.

[Grey Fox]

Originally posted by Tridotan1
Hey. You didn't respond to my feedback.

Sorry about that, I'm not here that often (I'm more ussually at CivFanatics www.Civfanatics.com) and when I am I'm ussually short on time, sorry but thanks for all your help!


THunderbolt, not a tank? Ok then my source where wrong.

[MDR]

JG 26 was a Luftwaffe fighter wing, not an actual plane. During the course of the war, the group flew Bf109s (which is probably what you were thinking of) and FW190s (that's Focke Wulfe, not just Focke). Already considered an elite squadron by the battle of Britain, this fighter group menace 8th Air Force B-17s throughout the entire war. Their squadron marking was a yellow nose cone. JG 26 flew in the West, the Russian Front, and in Africa. Many of their pilots went on to join JV44, an all ace squadron of Me262 pilots lead by Adolf Galland.

A couple of suggestions

Me109d, Me109f, Me109g
FW190A-2, FW190A-8, FW190D-9

US Tanks

M3A1 Stuart -> M4/76 Sherman -> M26 Pershing.

German Tanks

PzKpfw III "Panzer" -> Panther -> Tiger

US Bombers

B-17 -> B-24 -> B-29

British Tanks

Matilda -> Crusader -> Firefly

[Grey Fox]

Originally posted by MDR
JG 26 was a Luftwaffe fighter wing, not an actual plane. During the course of the war, the group flew Bf109s (which is probably what you were thinking of) and FW190s (that's Focke Wulfe, not just Focke). Already considered an elite squadron by the battle of Britain, this fighter group menace 8th Air Force B-17s throughout the entire war. Their squadron marking was a yellow nose cone. JG 26 flew in the West, the Russian Front, and in Africa. Many of their pilots went on to join JV44, an all ace squadron of Me262 pilots lead by Adolf Galland.

A couple of suggestions

Me109d, Me109f, Me109g
FW190A-2, FW190A-8, FW190D-9

US Tanks

M3A1 Stuart -> M4/76 Sherman -> M26 Pershing.

German Tanks

PzKpfw III "Panzer" -> Panther -> Tiger

US Bombers

B-17 -> B-24 -> B-29

British Tanks

Matilda -> Crusader -> Firefly

Thanks... very good!


As you can see I need help with this mod... that's why I'm releasing half-finished releases so I can get these Feedbacks!

Thanks everyone and keep helping me!

[bd2000]

Hie,

I find this thread really interesting.

I think that the best way to translate the WW2 warfare technology is to use three time periods :
- Early war (39-40),
- Middle war (41-43),
- Late war (44-45).

As it was said earlier, you should focus on the "main" equipments used.

What I mean is that, for example, tanks like Tiger were used but were never the main tanks of the Wermacht. The late war main tank of the Wermacht was the Panther (that is far better than the Tiger I). The Tiger I is a middle war tank (first fights in september 1942) but the Panther is a late war (late 1943-1944). The Tiger was replaced by the Tiger II (named King Tiger) in 1944.

I think that for Germans, the correct sequence would be :
Pz III (D if you need a specific model) / Pz IV (F2 or G if you need a specific model) / Panther (the Tiger / Tiger II / Jagdpanther / Jagdtiger were never heavily produced due to the quantity of steel needed and their fuel consumption).

The same apply for Britishs, the main "medium" tank battle was the Sherman (named Mark V) so I would suggest a sequence like : Matilda I (this tank had only a machinegun as main weapon but had a thick armor for its time), Sherman Mark V and Firefly (or Churcill like you prefer)

For the Russians, the sequence should be : KV-1 (thick armor here again but Russians do not know what means thin armor), T-34-76 (the different models are not significative at the scale of Civ) and T34-85 (the JS and JS-2 were their late war heavy tanks but were not produced in the same quantities).

For the americans, I would use the sequence given by MDR, Stuart / Sherman / Pershing.

I think it should be realistic to limit the use of "heavy" tanks (late war tanks) to the main characters of WW2 (basically USA, UK, Germany and Russia).

I do not want to include Japan as they never produced heavily tanks (and most of the units produced were used in China, not against the US).

To conclude, I think that the German tanks must be better during all the war. Germany lost to the industrial capabilities of the Allieds, not to their superior armors...

The best way to balance it is to make the german tanks better but more expensive (the T-34 and Sherman must be, by far, less expensive). Germany lost 1 Panther to 5 Shermans or 3 T-34 in direct fights to give you an idea of the difference of quality between these steel monsters (the factor linked to the crews quality is the reason of the ratio between the T-34 and the Panther...). During the late war period, a lot of germans tanks were destroyed by planes.


In anycase, good work Grey Fox !

[Beren]

Maybe you could name the ages after the type of weaponry used in that age:
Trench Age
Blitz Age
Nuclear Age

I haven't played the mod, yet, so I don't know how it will fit.

[Grey Fox]

Thanks bd2000!


I'm not currently working on version 4 (If you don't count paperwork...), and I don't know what is going to happen when they release the next version of the game...

Will the Mod work with the next version? Or can I save my rules?
Can I use Gramphos tools to save the rules?

If anyone that knows reads this, please tell me.

[Grey Fox]

Double post...

[Grey Fox]

Leaderheads can be downloaded here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43648

[Gramphos]

About the rules with, BIC 3.x, they will probably work wit the next version, and the file will be upgraded unce loaded in the editor. All new options will be set to a default value, which means you might have to rework the new options for your mod.