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  • #46
    About the spelling...

    Since Civ 3 is a game in English, it uses the English versions of city and leader names and they sometimes differ from the original. The ones we are used to include Athens, Rome, Moscow, Vienna, Prague and Carthage while the likes of Lyons, Munich, Nuremberg and Seville may seem less familiar.

    I'm from Finland and throughout our nation's history, Viipuri has been one of its most important cities (the Russians conquered it in WWII, though). Despite its little historical significance on the world scale, the city has an English name "Vyborg" that we Finns find strange (and most of us aren't even aware that such a name exists), so I know how you people feel about your "misspelled" cities.

    Firaxis and Infogrames publish a product (be it a book or a computer game) so they have to insist that the names in it are "correct". My point is that having some of the names in their original forms and the rest translated in English is quite awkward. Some of the names you've corrected are real typos, but Aristotle, Marseilles and Joan of Arc are correct, English names. If we rename Munich to München, we should also rename Athens to Athinai and Iroquois names to something really exotic.

    Cologne is in Germany, but Köln is in Deutschland.


    Anyway, thanks for the city names, Sevorak.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Kuitenkin
      About the spelling...

      Since Civ 3 is a game in English, it uses the English versions of city and leader names and they sometimes differ from the original. The ones we are used to include Athens, Rome, Moscow, Vienna, Prague and Carthage while the likes of Lyons, Munich, Nuremberg and Seville may seem less familiar.

      I'm from Finland and throughout our nation's history, Viipuri has been one of its most important cities (the Russians conquered it in WWII, though). Despite its little historical significance on the world scale, the city has an English name "Vyborg" that we Finns find strange (and most of us aren't even aware that such a name exists), so I know how you people feel about your "misspelled" cities.

      Firaxis and Infogrames publish a product (be it a book or a computer game) so they have to insist that the names in it are "correct". My point is that having some of the names in their original forms and the rest translated in English is quite awkward. Some of the names you've corrected are real typos, but Aristotle, Marseilles and Joan of Arc are correct, English names. If we rename Munich to München, we should also rename Athens to Athinai and Iroquois names to something really exotic.

      Cologne is in Germany, but Köln is in Deutschland.


      Anyway, thanks for the city names, Sevorak.
      No offense, but you do realise the last post is 3 months old and the main posts are from last year?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Jer8m8


        No offense, but you do realise the last post is 3 months old and the main posts are from last year?
        Maybe he was looking at files and read some of the thread and felt like he wanted to respond or make a point that hasnt been made.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Pythagoras


          Maybe he was looking at files and read some of the thread and felt like he wanted to respond or make a point that hasnt been made.
          But still, its says something if I haven't played civ3 in months and months...and someone replies to a thread I posted in.

          BTW, Europa Universalis is awesome

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          • #50
            Maybe he was looking at files and read some of the thread and felt like he wanted to respond or make a point that hasnt been made.
            Heh, exactly.

            Well, I haven't played Civ 3 for months either. Been busy and had problems with my comp.

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            • #51
              Patch compatability?

              HiYa Sevorak, great work! Lots of people (including me!) are in your debt.

              I see the last date of anyone posting is some time back, and pre-1.29 patch.

              My question: Does your latest version 3.15 contain the rules for the last Civ3 patch 1.29f or no? If it does I can use it as the base to work from for my modifications, otherwise I will want to paste out the list of city names and leaders in it, into my developed mod so I'm playing with the 1.29 ruleset.

              Thanks in advance for taking the time to post a reply.

              Civ on.
              If you can't be kind to everyone, at least be kind to animals. They are innocent.

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              • #52
                ...

                I just happen to be passing by and I see this...

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                • #53
                  hey... i just discovered this... so alls i do is rename this to "civ3mod.bic" and i'm good to go?
                  I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
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                  • #54
                    Chinese City Names

                    Hey, gratters for taking the initiative to deal with the dearth of city names in the game. In keeping with this spirit, I have a request- the city names for the Chinese could stand some polishing. not only are there misspellings, but outright errors - xinjian (should be xinjiang, even though this is the name for Chinese Turkestan) being the most grating instance. The city names also have little to do with Chinese history, as the major cities of China today are often the products of recent phenomena. Macao was founded by the portugese, hong kong by the british... shanghai was a minor trading town until the opium wars. None of them reflect the urban feats of the Chinese at the height of their power. I would suggest that the cities are re-named in this order to reflect the ancient capitals and other major commercial hubs from the Han dynasty onward.

                    Chang-an -- the capital in the early Han, Sui, and Tang - Rome of China
                    Luoyang -- the capital in the late Han and the Jin
                    Xuchang -- the capital of the Wei Kingdom
                    Jiankang -- the capital of the Wu Kingdom and the early Ming. now Nanjing.
                    Chengdu -- the capital of the Shu Kingdom
                    Bianjing -- the capital of the early Song. Now Kaifeng.
                    Lin-an -- the port capital of the late Song. Now Hangzhou
                    Beijing -- the capital since the early Ming
                    Yangzhou -- major commercial center since the Sui
                    Suzhou -- major commercial center since the Tang
                    Guangzhou -- major commercial port since the Han
                    Wuxi -- major commercial center since the Song
                    Taiyuan -- major commercial center during the Qing
                    Ningbo -- major commercial port since the Qing
                    Fuzhou -- major commercial port since the Song
                    Quanzhou -- major commerical port since the Song
                    Chaozhou -- major commerical port since the Song
                    Xiangyang -- major commercial center since the Han
                    Wuchang -- major commercial center since the Ming
                    Anyang -- seat of the Shang feudal king.
                    Chongqing
                    Wenzhou
                    Guiyang
                    Nanchang
                    Zhengzhou
                    Liaoyang
                    Kunming
                    Ji-nan
                    Huizhou
                    Lanzhou

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                    • #55
                      one last thing - my laptop doesnt believe in apostrophes. where you see a hyphen in a city name, replace with an apostrophe if you want to be all accurate and stuff.

                      cheers,

                      -finley

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                      • #56
                        An update for the new civs in PtW would be greatly appreciated. Suggestions?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Killerdaffy
                          An update for the new civs in PtW would be greatly appreciated. Suggestions?
                          Yeah, that'll be nice, though I can't help
                          This space is empty... or is it?

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                          • #58
                            Citynames for new civs

                            If you do still have Civ2, try to intall it and look in the city.txt file. Microprose, the maker of Civ2 had collected many citynames of civs, like the arabs, the spanish, the celts, the turks, the carthaginians, the mongols and the vikings.
                            Only the koreans were not contained in Civ2
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                            • #59
                              Have a look here:



                              Suggestions welcome in that thread.

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