Could anyone post some saves on higher diffs?

[Modo44]

I admit I used more Cavalry that I thought I would. The simple reason was that I'm used to the AU Mod, which gives infantry an attack of 8, giving Cavalry an attack value of 5. This means that once Infantry is there, there's not much use for Cavalry. In this Sumerian game, with stock rules, Cavalry turned out to be a good attacker, even against Riflemen.


With a constant stream of reinforcement and little losses anyway, Sumerian forces were able to execute the plan without too much trouble. After the dust cleared, the Sumerian territory was more than doubled and the Dutch were a mere speck on the map. The only possessions they had left, were some cities they had taken from the Byzantines and from the Spaniards.

This is how the Sumerian military regime looked like, 1585 AD. The save is in a post earlier in this thread.

[Muad'Dib]

Nice pics Modo.

Can you give me the link or the file for your Terrain Mod.
I like the more detailed mines, Mts. & forests. In the mod, are the borders also modified or is that a separate mod because I'm not enthusiastic about changing the borders, at this point in time.
I kinda figured that your primary goal were their coastal cities. It was the only way I could figure out how you conquered them so quickly. It was confirmed when I downloaded your save and saw how many galleons & arty you had.
I was also amazed that you did this without a single army.

Note:

Looking at your save, I noticed the Rueskies have established a beachhead on your continent. Also that Dutch took several Byz cities.

Me=No Hittites You=Hittites still exist.
Me=Dutch slowly dying You=Almost dead
Me=Spanish endangered civ You=A few more cities
Me=Byzantines viable You=On the endangered list
Me=No Russians (no trespassing) You=Beachhead

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AU Mod of Infantry, another confirmation.

[Muad'Dib]

Fall of Dordrecht--1735

1st Cavalry (Etana's Elites) & 4th Crusader (Templar Knights of Kish) lead the assault and capture of Dordrecht.

[Muad'Dib]

Victory At Sea

Privateers operating off the coast of Septum return to port after sinking Dutch troop convoy.

[Modo44]

Originally posted by Muad'Dib
Can you give me the link or the file for your Terrain Mod.
I like the more detailed mines, Mts. & forests. In the mod, are the borders also modified or is that a separate mod because I'm not enthusiastic about changing the borders, at this point in time.

The basic terrain mod is Rhye's terrain, available here at CFC.

The mines are by Niessuh, should be somewhere here on Apolyton.

The borders are a separate file, so you don't have to change them if you don't want to.

Originally posted by Muad'Dib
I kinda figured that your primary goal were their coastal cities. It was the only way I could figure out how you conquered them so quickly. It was confirmed when I downloaded your save and saw how many galleons & arty you had.
I was also amazed that you did this without a single army.

The Galleons went there together with Frigates in case the Dutch had any fleet left to bomb my forces (Galleons are favored as defenders of the fleet, if they don't carry a load). All land units were brought in through the military Railroad done in Hittie territory. As you can see from the first screenie, we attacked from the north, assisted by the Hitties. I forgot to mention that I brought nearly the whole world to war with the Dutch, so their fleet probably got destroyed somewhere else. All I saw of it were 4 nearly dead Frigates, that were trying to enter port for repairs. I'm attaching the save just at the beginning of the war, so you can see that I had nothing transported by the Galleons. Didn't need to - Railroads are faster.

The way to do invasion before tanks is simple: Lots of artillery enter enemy terrain, defended by some Infantry, preferably getting in range of a city on the same turn, and preferably staying on rough terrain in case of counter-attack. Cavalry enters and sits in places that allow a direct attack next turn (so does Infantry, if any happens to be close enough), also defended by Infantry if possible. Next turn: bomb the defenders to 1 HP, Cavalry takes the city, Railroad is put down, defenders brought in, second wave proceeds to prepare the attack for the next turn. Reinforcements are used mainly to keep the invasion going when damaged units rest. The AI is very reluctant to attack Infantry, except in open terrain.

I didn't get a single friggin' MGL for all the Elite victories.

Originally posted by Muad'Dib
Me=No Hittites You=Hittites still exist.
Me=Dutch slowly dying You=Almost dead
Me=Spanish endangered civ You=A few more cities
Me=Byzantines viable You=On the endangered list
Me=No Russians (no trespassing) You=Beachhead

You forgot to add: "Modo: soon to own the entire continent...".

The Hitties signed a peace treaty with the Dutch before we did, while in a Mutual Proctection Pact and Military Alliance with us. Now they are going to pay for the treachery. I'm ROP-raping them big time.

Here's the save 1525 AD, just after the first battles of the Dutch war. This is to show the placement of troops.

[Modo44]

I didn't get to ROP-rape the Hitties, dang them.

In the year 1615 AD the Dutch became history, as the last city of the once great nation fell to a Sumerian Cavalry regiment. In order to advance fast to the distant target, Sumerian Workers (along with Dutch Slaves ) built a Railroad through Hittie territory on the Spanish Penisula (called after it's former owners ).

Then the unthinkable happened - the Hitties sneak attacked us, before we sneak attacked them! The bastards took two small cities and gave a hard time to our Infantry in Eschede and in Den Helden. Also, they captured more than 10 Worker groups we had in their territory. Fortunately, the two bigger targets they picked were strongly garrisoned, so we prevailed. Neither were they able to enter the Sumerian homeland, as we kept the Gilgamesh Line constantly manned and operational at all times (even while in a Mutual Protection Pact with the infidels).

But, to be honest, they must have badly underestimated the Sumerian military. Suffice is to say that we destroyed all their entering forces in our first counter-attack. And not only that. We also took back both cities they thought they had conquered, pushing farther and getting another three in the same year. This happened on the Spanish Penisula. In addition, offensives were prepared to push into the heart of the Hittie empire, both from the south and from the east.

As a gesture to the international community, we asked other nations to assist in punishing the Hitties for their treachery (now double treachery - remember the Military Alliance they broke earlier). Their support was mainly by means of words, for they had no real way of fighting together with us. To be honest, they weren't able to keep up with the pace of Sumerian military operations.

I won't bore you with a long description of the war. It was done fast and ended without any problems, save for minor losses. And not a single unit had to be built in the southern part of Sumeria - it could keep building infrastructure by means of Forced Labor. A mere 9 turns later, a blink in human history, the Hitties were only a bad memory.

Sumeria, shortly after the downfall of the Hitties, 1665 AD.

[Muad'Dib]

New Ur Daily News--Sumerian forces capture key Dutch city

Wednesday November 24, 1740

Sumerian forces continue to make gains as the Dutch cities of Gouda & Delft fall. Delft, a key industrial city vital to Dutch war production, was captured with little lose of life. Sumerian demolition experts quickly defused numerious explosives that were to blow-up several factories & coal plants from falling into our hands as we quickly over-ran the city. A massive Dutch counter-attack to retake the city was repulsed.

[Muad'Dib]

Sumerian Army catches Dutch ships in port

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Thursday November 25, 1745

To stem the growing threat from Dutch ironclads, the Army, in a joint operation with the navy, seized the Dutch ports of Tilburg & Harlingen catching several Dutch warships in port. A Pentagon spokes person, addressing reporters at early morning news conference, said that Sumerian forces sunk 9 Dutch ships (5 ironclads, 2 frigates & 2 galleons) when they captured the ports of Tilburg and Harlingen. Naval Intelligence estimates that the Dutch only have 8 ships left (2 ironclads, 4 frigates & 2 galleons), compared to 31 Sumerian vessels operating in Dutch waters. The lose of Tilburg & Harlingen was a crippling blow to the Dutch Highseas Fleet.

[Muad'Dib]

Joint Operations

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[Muad'Dib]

Breakthrough in Electronics achieved states NIS

Ali Ibn Rabban, director of the National Institute for Science, publicly anounced that Sumerian scientists made a major breakthrough in the field of electronics in a news conference today. Rabban said that private sector & government researchers have been working closely ever since the discovery of electricity. "To find uses for this new power source have been painfully slow," says Rabban. After the news conference, Rabban toured the massive public works project north of Ur that will damn the Ur river in order to provide electricity throughout the kingdom.

[Muad'Dib]

Amersterdam Chronicle--No stopping the Sumerian juggernaut

The President, in a brief public appearance for the first time since war with Sumeria resumed, declared that the capital is under martial law after Sumerian forces captured Zwolle & Utrecht. With the Sumerians just 50 miles away, reporters questioned the President repeatedly for answers as to why Dutch forces can't stop the Sumerians. The President, who has been under a lot of stress since the war started, cracked and verbally tore into the reporters. "You idiots want to know. You think your pea-sized brains can handle the truth. Well then, here it is. While I'm elected and have to deal with a congress and a senate, Gilgamesh is a monarch and has no one to answer to. No one dares question his decisions, whereas mine are questioned repeatedly. I wanted to spend revenues on beefing up the army. Getting them modern weapons like the sumerians have. Instead, powerful Senators and Congressmen from coastal cities spent the money on the navy. Whoopi freakin doo, our navy is more powerful than theirs. Unfortunately for us, navies can't capture cities or defend them, ARMIES DO!!!! Or do I have to remind you SOBs about our loses at Tilburg and Harlingen."
With that , the President shoved two reporters who got too close as he was trying to leave. The President uttered an explitive about not getting in his face and was spirited away by the Secret Service.

[Modo44]

Lucky you are. All I got was 1 SGL and 3 MGLs toal, since 30BC. Still, it was better than most of my games. It was my very first SGL ever, since I started playing Conquests.

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Muad'Dib, your stories are great. Keep 'em coming.

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Aaanyway, for comparison, I'm posting the alternative universe where Sumeria was a peaceful Fascist (ain't that funny?) in 1695 AD. This was the year when - in the other unverse - Sumeria attacked the Dutch for the first time.

Some roleplay in the text ahead, please try not to get offended.


The large threats on the continent were long gone. The former Dutch and Hittie lands were reduced in population to encourage Sumerian citizens to move in. Soon they became majority (in Fascism cities only start generating culture when you have a national majority in a city). To achieve that, many public works projects were conducted and new infrastructure was quickly build. We buried the bodies of the Dutch and Hittie workers under fundaments. They were useful, after all.

The military government didn't consider the remaining neighbours to be a threat to peace, so they were left alone. In fact, considering they were weakened earlier by the Dutch conquests, Sumeria signed Mutual Protection Pacts with it's small neighbours, to keep them safe. Of course, they went to war with each other on the next turn. How dumb was that? Now Sumeria would soon have to kill one of them. Too bad.

[Muad'Dib]

Dutch capital falls--King takes grand tour of city

New Ur Daily News Friday, November 26, 1752


Sumerian troops cut the Netherlands in half today with the capture of Amsterdam. King Gilgamesh lead troops in a victory parade through the main thoroughfare to the gates of the presidential palace. After the parade, the King, accompanied by generals Meskiaggasher, Enmerkar, Lugalbanda, Lugalzaggesi and Etana, toured the city. He was shown the Hanging Gardens, the Colossus, and the Mausoleum of Mausollos. After touring the city with the King, General Lugalzaggesi (head of military intelligence) entered the Dutch intelligence agency hoping to plunder it of its secrets. Unfortunately the Dutch had destroyed all documents, so Lugalzaggesi ordered the building be put to the torch.
In other news, Sumerian troops captured the Dutch city of Lauwersoog.
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Rotteerdam Free Press

Sumerian forces captured the capital today. President William, under heavy guard, boarded a new ship--a destroyer--and sailed for the port city of Holwerd to setup new government offices. The President, just moments after he disembarked from the destroyer, was informed of the lose of Lauwersoog. He immediatedly dispatched an envoy to sue for peace and was rebuffed.
King Gilgamesh replied back, "All I want from the Ducth is for them to join the Hittites...In Oblivion!!! You can have your little toy ironclads and your new destroyers. They can sail the globe for all I care for they well have no ports to call home when I'm finished. I hear you are in Holwerd trying to reconstitute your government. Well you better make preparations William, for I come for you. And when I have you, I'll mount your head next to Mursilis' above my throne."

[GTPoompt]

Originally posted by Muad'Dib And when I have you, I'll mount your head next to Mursilis' above my throne."

Quite a nice thing to say to a ruler who you just defeated.

[jshelr]

this one was really fun. be warned --- you are very near your neighbors.