Could anyone post some saves on higher diffs?

[GTPoompt]

Ok, so I started up a game, all random.
played as a random civ too...... diff = reagent.

Hittites were below me, immediately roaded then blocked them off from coming in my territory.

Now it seems that i am falling WAY behind on tech levels.... like 4 techs from the hittites. I think it's due to me not having a reasearch plan and i just reasearched stuff - probably should have beelined for republic like i usually do. Staying in despotism for that long is bad

Anyway, i'm building the great library to "see" if there is any sort of hope for this game, hopefully the lib will give 4 or so techs, bring me into medieval age or so, then scientific gives another free tech...

Also the other place i really got screwed is when the hittites attacked me stupid enkidu warrior gave me a golden age at a bad time.

I'll post game here, tell me whether it is worth it to continue or not (BTW, I actually did the worker stuff by myselfs, but i think i don't have enough workers due to my trying to make the golden age "somewhat" useful by pop rushing with them)

EDIT: btw, i'm starving the city in the corner thats building the great library so i can get it done faster, i'll just sac a worker

[Muad'Dib]

I just looked over your current game.

1) Why didn't you go for Philosophy???
2)Corruption is a handicap to your border cities. Get Code of Laws and build courthouse in those cities.
3) No one else is building Great Library, that's a plus. Could help you until someone gets Education.
4) You need to get out Despotism, your handicapping yourself.

I like this game. I bored with my current one haven't played Regent in awhile. I'll send you updates.

[GTPoompt]

hehe... i was playing kind of dumb

As for not going for Philosophy, I was hoping to trade for both from the hittites, but apparently that isn't happening, cant get a road into their capital so i can't trade my excess furs

anyway, so i got the library built up and now i'm back in the game. Unfortunately, the netherlands (who i just met) came and plopped down a city in my territory.....

EDIT:

Update, played a bit more, got republic and the game seems to be turning around.

Is it worth it for chivalry? or a waste of an advance (pay comp for it or something)

[vmxa1]

Well it is not certain as you have only contact with one civ, so it is hard to say where you really stand.

You could win, I have no doubt, but not without some big changes in tactics.

1) no where near enough workers and hence not much is done to the land.

Most tiles have no roads and few have mines or any improvements.

2) many cities on wealth, that is a no no in ancient times.

3) Libs being built in many cities that really cannot use them. They are too small at this point. They could be making workers and settlers instead.

4) No exploration and hence no contacts. Get a curragh out asap in any game.

5) The capitols is not growing at size 6 and is on wealth. It should be much larger and have all of the worked tiles improved.

6) citizens working unimproved tiles, that is to be avoided, if possible.

7) too many warrior type units and most are regulars. One way to avoid that early GA is to not build any UU's or keep them out of harms way.

8) Your only contact only has 4 cities and you have lots of units, trim him now. If you have a barracks, upgrade a few UU's to swords. Start making horsemen instead of any others.

9) I would have preferred you to get philo much sooner and to work on a new government soon.

10) lack of contacts means no one to trade with in the ancient era, where it is very beneficial.

11) At regent I would expect to make as many of the wonders as suited me and get the boost from the many good ones. The AI will not be able to get a strong city early and you could.

Understand, wonders are not needed, but in a regent game, it is a problem if you are not doing well enough to get some.

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by GTPoompt
my excess furs

anyway, so i got the library built up and now i'm back in the game. Unfortunately, the netherlands (who i just met) came and plopped down a city in my territory.....

EDIT:

Update, played a bit more, got republic and the game seems to be turning around.

Is it worth it for chivalry? or a waste of an advance (pay comp for it or something)

If had gotten a city making settlers and another or even the same one doing workers now and then, you would have filled in all your land and avoided any intrusion.


Chiv is great if you want to attack someone, if not you can wait to get it cheap.

Good luck.

[GTPoompt]

ok... tell me what you guys think now....

I'm probably going tech wise to go for copernicus, then go all out for military tradition and get a rush for cavalry and start attacking hittites...

I still don't have much of a map, but i did meet new civs.

I understand that I AM a pretty bad Civ III'er though Criticism accepted in all shapes or forms

saving up gold so then i can upgrade all those old enkundo's lyings around.

As for workers... I have some cash surplus but not TOO much. If I start building workers thats 2 gp/turn each because i'm over the support limit. is that surplus (+20) too big? The reason my workers aren't organized//big enough manner is because i used to let them on automate.... but i hear that is a very bad idea so i am trying to learn the ways of the worker

[vmxa1]

GTPoompt don't worry about being bad, I am sure you are much better than many.

Yes learning to manage your workers and to have enough to do the job will move you up quite a bit.

The key to those things are to try to have enough workers to improve tiles as they are worked. The number of workers is not a constant as industrial civs work faster and bad terrian need more workers.

Focus on at least one per city and to minimize the wasted turns. This is done by having an idea of what comes next and not sending your worker back and forth.

Don't work that hill first thing, when you have grasslands that would yield more and take less work. Try to have a road down and not have to travel over unroaded tiles.

The workers will pay for themselves quickly. If you have a worked tile with no road and no improvement (and you probably do), it will cover the cost.

Anyway take the hit if you must. Disband a few old units that are not needed. Get a few more cities.

[vmxa1]

1) you did not take any land from the Hittite in all that time?

2) Kua entertainer is not needed and can work the forrest for 2 shields.

3) no embassies

4) Incense is not hooked up, this could ease it some and remove the need of the entertainers

5) still no exploring


You can make at least one town on or near the incense. Two in the open plains and maybe one on the coast near Islin.

Those extra towns would cover some support.

You can disband some of those UU's as the regulars are not worth upgrading IMO.

You can get a barracks in one of the idle towns and have it make Knigths to replace those warriors and such. Any reg unit at this stage is of no value or nearly none.

Never build Knights without a barracks or any units after the ancient age. You are in Republic, so no need to have those troops in those cities in middle of the empire. They are the first to go.

Hold the fort. I just noiced you are researching at 50% on ED and you have the GL? You will get ED for free. Most will not research if they ae getting free techs from the GL.

[GTPoompt]

As for the hittites

well, I was gathering my army and about to attack them.... then the STUPID dutch sneak attack me. I am forced to bribe people for war.

Now it has gone a little overboard but fun
EDIT: made pictures smaller

Screenies
whos at war with who


Alliances (now this is crazy)



However, even though the dutch still have a score advantage, i've pulled ahead in the teceeh wars. However, i still need to find some way of getting out of this massive war...

[Muad'Dib]

GTPoompt, post another save. I'm curious to see what you have.

Here's where I am with the last save you posted.

[Muad'Dib]

Ooops, did not see your post. I see from your attachement your at 1070AD. The attachement I posted is the Sumerians at 540AD I think.

[punkbass2000]

If you want the above game I posted, here it is. It's with the AU mod, however, but that's not too different from stock and shouldn't really affect things you're looking at.

[GTPoompt]

K here's my latest game.

Unfortunately there are so many wars i'm slowly getting in war weariness even though I was attacked without a CB.

I'm first in industrial age, i think the dutch may be close behind.

i had a lot more troops to begin with.... but this has been one long war with marginal gains. i gained 3 cities from the dutch, could probably take more if i decided to mobilize and really pump out the troops. My plan was to march completely towars amsterdam and take it because its a wonder city..... but the dutch have SO many of those swiss mercenaries its tough even with the 6 attack cavalry.

However, at least the dutch talk to me now.

ONE of the problems is that i have a mutual protection pact with scandaniavia and they are being targeted, which is bad. Also if i drop the war with dutch everyone will probably be pissed off.

EDIT: i'm sure with a concentrated effort i could take all of the dutch, it'd just take a while and i'd possibly have to switch to another govt (maybe i should go for commie just in case). This is probably because no one else has riflemen yet.

[Muad'Dib]

GTPoompt, glad to see you're hanging in there with the amount of AI's on this continent. 1460AD, damn dude I only progressed to 690AD. Here's my latest save. I'm beating your 1070AD progression though.

[Cort Haus]

Here's a Middle Ages save of the Portuguese at 500AD on a standard continents map, emperor, 500AD.