newb needs guidience

[techbota]

No I dont. Sorry it goes by quick in the begining. I will probably start a new game tommorow as this one is most likely lost already.

[vmxa1]

Save the 4000bc and about 2100bc.

[techbota]

Will do that tonight.....lol for me that is like one city maybe 2

[vmxa1]

I tried to find the worldseed for the one you sent, but is is 0 in the ini. If you have the 4000 from the new one send it now and the other later.

I don't know how to determine what the map seed is after the fact if it is not in the ini.

[techbota]

Well I have 2 but it is 3950 and 1950. If these wont work I will get a new map tommorrow. It seems like I start and dont finish a game a night.

I have no IDEA what a world seed is!!!!

ZIP FILE HERE

I had a terrible start on this map I played continents with all players. I got a nice hunk of land to myself but only gems and very little fresh water. I have no choice but to go far away to build cities.

[vmxa1]

That should work. World Seed is is a map number for the map generator. If you have it you can force the game to create the map again.

I don't seem to have your email so can you email a test to me. I thought I got it from the last save, but I guess not.

[vmxa1]

Question 1 what to research Pottery or Alphabet?
Question 2 what level to research 100% or 20%?

The answer is at Warlord doing either is fine, but if you are doing something else, you may want to reconsider. I choose Pottery at 100%. Main research is that you have no coastal city at this time and will need a granary. This changes if you met a civ that cantrade you that tech. Also you will not get the tech you are researching at this point, so why not take the cheapest one in case you pop a tech?

[vmxa1]

Dang accidently posted.

Wanted to ask why the worker is on the hill? You have a bonus grassland next to the capitol that should have been where the worker went. You are aiming to road the wheat I would guess, but that is the next tile from the bonus one.

The hill will cost you more worker turns and wil not be worked for some time as you have lots of forrest and bonus tiles.

[vmxa1]

Anyway I have run up till 1400BC. Dropped Russia to one city for 4 techs. Have an MGL to use. Curragh found other land mass, don't know if it is a small island or a contient yet.

I have a log and a few saves to send you so you can see one possible way to go. I have a 1910BC to go with yours.

[techbota]

I have no idea what you mean by bonus tiles at all. Im alittle confused at times about what to do about my workers.

After my last save I took the map about to 1100bc sent 6-7 archers to russia and they all got smacked down in 2 turns by a warrior a archer and 2 spearmen.

So I have no idea what you are doing to get to russia so fast and take them to only one city???

I am getting so frustrated with this friggin game.

what do you mean by you dropped russia to one city with 4 TECHS?

Is MGL a leader?

You are aiming to road the wheat I would guess, but that is the next tile from the bonus one.

I dont really understand this sentence. I am really newb at this sorry. I know that yes I was aiming towards wheat but what bonus tile are you talking about?

Question 1 what to research Pottery or Alphabet?

I was given pottery by a tribe. I then reasearched warrior code. From there I tried to get Iron working. I dont know what is wrong but it took for ever and I never got it by the time I went to bed!

Although the other civs were building wonders like crazy!! It was like one of those dreams were you run and run but go no where.

Email to use is techbota@utinsomniac.com

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by techbota
"I have no idea what you mean by bonus tiles at all. Im alittle confused at times about what to do about my workers."

I mean a tile that is a grassland, but has a bonus shown my the ore or whatever it is in the center. Look at the Pedia for tiles.
This tile yields an extra shield.

"After my last save I took the map about to 1100bc sent 6-7 archers to russia and they all got smacked down in 2 turns by a warrior a archer and 2 spearmen."

I was lucky. I will send adetail log after I do my workout. Basically I ran into a scout quickly and killed it. Since this is warlord I was not worried and I felt this was an island with few civs.
My warrior scouts ran into some Russian warriors and I was able to stay on a hill to fight. By the time I found cities I had two elite warriors. Unless you attacked a city on a hill with walls and maybe a river, you had some very bad luck.

"So I have no idea what you are doing to get to russia so fast and take them to only one city???"

I think I took down 3 size 1 cities before they made peace.

"I am getting so frustrated with this friggin game."

Lets work on making it better.

"what do you mean by you dropped russia to one city with 4 TECHS?"
When I attacked their larger city (I did not notice if it was cap or not) I actually was only on the door. I saw 2 archers coming and felt I was pushing it. So I contacted them to see what they would do. They had two cities and 4 techs I did not have. So I made the deal for peace for the other city and the techs. I disbanded the city and started to leave. That is where it stood.

"Is MGL a leader?"

Military Great Leader. I got one in a battle and it is heading home.
I would likely use it to build FP to allow a palace move later.
I do not care for the location of the cap for this land. It is not cast in stone right now.

"I dont really understand this sentence. I am really newb at this sorry. I know that yes I was aiming towards wheat but what bonus tile are you talking about?"

The tile at 9 from where the worker is at the start. 9 being the number pad keys. If you look at the city view it is the tile that is being worked by you citizen.


"I was given pottery by a tribe. I then reasearched warrior code. From there I tried to get Iron working. I dont know what is wrong but it took for ever and I never got it by the time I went to bed!"

Ok if you get a tech from a hut it will not be the one you are researching. Two reasons people like to start with Pottery is it is cheap to research and it give access to granary. Now if I pop a hut for a tech it will be one more expansive than Pottery. NOt to mention I stand a good chance of running into a civ that has Pottery and can trade for it.

"Although the other civs were building wonders like crazy!! It was like one of those dreams were you run and run but go no where."

I did not mention but I build Pyramids and Collossus is about done.

I will send it after wokout, you may want to edit your address to phoney up your name. Some sites may grab your address and start hitting you with crude.

Anyway you will be killing Civ in a short while, so hold on.

[vmxa1]

Here is a shot of the city. See the tile being worked? Two food, one shield. Given that it is despotism we can tell it is a bonus grassland. Once a road is build we will get commerce. Once a mine is build we will get an additional shield and it will be 2 food 2 shield, 1 commerce.

Getting roads on worked tiles will give us commerce. Having tiles near a river yields commerce as well.

Doing this tile first leads us to the wheat as our next tile and we will have epxanded to be able to have it in our border.

[vmxa1]

Now we can see (hopefully the little white ore on the tile that tells us it is a bonus grassland. If not we can see one next to the wheat.

Note the warrior just finished and will be moving off to scout.

[vmxa1]

One thing that puzzled me why why so much land was exposed behind the city?

[techbota]

One thing that puzzled me why why so much land was exposed behind the city?

Well about the only thing I do well is explore. I had like 2-3 units other than the worker that I sent in 3 directions.

So those little white ores. should I always mine them? Thats what I have been doing!

They had two cities and 4 techs I did not have. So I made the deal for peace for the other city and the techs. I disbanded the city and started to leave.

So I take it you took their capital. How do you disband a city and what does that mean? That you gave it back for them giving you 4 techs?

I can rarley get one tech when I make peace with a civ!!! Much less 4. Wow!!!!

What did you use to take their cities archers or warriors?

With those bonus squares. Do they work like mountains in the fact that if they offer a shield does it offer your attackers a better defense?