Govt balance

[vee4473]

well, to be real, I really don't think any modern republic would degenerate into "anarchy" if democratic reforms were enacted.

That is one aspect that I think is wrong with the gov't switches.

Sure, anarchy can be enabled for a dramatic switch from despot or monarch to higher forms , but to think that any modern civilization would fall into total, chaotic, burn the house down anarchy if reforms were made from repub to demo is just, well , stupid i think.

bad aspect of the game.

[joncnunn]

I'm thinking that under Republic, you should have the most free unit support for type 2s and the same amount of support for type 1s and type 3s.

Don't increase type 2 though, just reduce 1 and/or 3. This should provide an incentive to get out of the Republic when you build Hospitals.

[vmxa1]

enderw they can if they are religious. I think the cost of swithcing is too high and it makes having all those governments moot.

[Alexander's Horse]

there is no balance

[notyoueither]

I think 2/2/2 solves both problems with Republic, maybe.

2 free units per town makes Republic viable for the early game builder who gets stuck without rivers.

2 free units per city knackers the Medieval/Industrial war monger who is riding Republic with higher commerce, low war weariness, and high support limits for cities/metros to global domination on land and in science.

I'd have to play it out though.

[Alexander's Horse]

good idea

[notyoueither]

Good thing someone else proposed it earlier.

[Alexander's Horse]

ya

[player1]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I think 2/2/2 solves both problems with Republic, maybe.

Although 1/2/2 should be OK too (to promote some use of Feudalism.

[notyoueither]

Builders don't want to go a war monger govt path.

[Jon Miller]

but feudalism doesn't have to be war monger

it just enables you to do some better

and it saves a tech

and certain strategies should be weaker in different circumstances (like builder when there are no rivers or lakes)

Jon Miller

[Alexander's Horse]

good point

[player1]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Builders don't want to go a war monger govt path.

War monger path?

Feudalism has war warrines you know?
And 3pg per unit support.

Free unit support just helps it to earn some money without trade bonus of Republic.


P.S.
Although when we are at Govt balance, I think that Feudalism could get unit cost switched back to from 3gp to 1gp (while keeping WW) and still stay balnced.

Because, Monachy would still be better when having mostly cities (higher upkeep, no WW), Republic would still be better with trade bonus (if having not to many units).
And Despotism would still keep some small use, if in need to get rid of WW and still have great number of free units (4 units per town, no WW).

[notyoueither]

For every city I conquer and starve down to 6 pop, how many more free units do I gain?

[notyoueither]

It's very rewarding of conquest.