Civ3 Conquests' Missing Civ!

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by Alexander01
Cavalry, eh?

What sort of cavalry unit would the Austrian/Hapsburg empire have?

Does anyone know what it's called? Any picture?

Yep. Here it is, the Austrian UU:

[Alexander I]

Wonderful! Thank you very much.

So now, we've got:


Civilization: Austria
Leader: Charles V
Unique Unit: Hussar
Capital: Vienna (I'm assuming)

Traits: ???

Anybody know what the two Austrian civilization traits are?

(Industrious, Militaristic, Religious, Scientific, Commercial, Expansionistic, Agricultural, Seafaring)

[Louis XXIV]

Militaristic, Industrious

The Hussar is 7.3.3 no extra cost

[Alexander I]

Excellent!

Poor Austria! The Civ that Sid Forgot!

I imagine they'd be quite interesting to play.

I wonder why the makers made them in the first place, if they weren't going to use them. perhaps it had been an idea by one of the crew, but they weren't able to use it, so they stuck the vestige in anyway, so that if anyone wanted to, they could use the pieces.

By the way, what does the Hussar replace, Dragoon? Cavalry?

[Louis XXIV]

There is no Dragoon in the main game.

[MrWhereItsAt]

The Hussar replaces the Cavalry for Austria.

Honestly, it should be pretty easy to put Austria in - just go to the editor and edit whatever the Conquests .bix file is to remove one civ and put in Austria. That should be all you need to do, as Austria is all ready to roll, it just needs you to deal with the hardcoded limit of 32 civs by removing one. Save the .bix file with a different name (one ou can remember), then load that bix file as a scenario and you should get a random map exactly the same as normal Epic Game, just with the civ changes you have made.

Although I haven't tried this for myself (no C3C for another week) it has been this easy altering things (for example changing the number of civs on certain sized maps) for PtW.

[joncnunn]

As I recall, they had already done the letterhead artwork for Austria and the other seven new civs when they remembered the 32 civ [including barbs as #32 limit.]

Since Austria duplicates China's traights, it was on the short-list that could be dropped. (All the new Seafaring and Agr civs had to stay to prevent holes, and they couldn't very well drop a preexisting civ.)

[Plotinus]

I have to say I was surprised at some of the choices here - I mean, do we really need Austria when we have Germany? Do we really need Portugal when we have Spain? No, we don't, especially given how over-populated the European culture group is already. I would have dropped Portugal, and also dropped the Byzantines, since although they are great they are the same civ as the Romans. I'd have put in the Assyrians, who absolutely rocked, although as Alexander1 says there might be rather a lot of ancient Middle Eastern ones already. They would have been better than the Hittites, in my opinion. Personally, I'd have liked to see another African kingdom make it - Ghana, perhaps, or Mali, or perhaps the Ethiopians.

[Faboba]

Originally posted by Alexander01
Of course, this thread would be incomplete without the inclusion of a picture of the fabulous Austrian leaderhead throughout time.

So here he is, in all his splendor:

Charles I/V of the Austrian/Spanish/Hapsburg Empire
Karl V of the Holy Roman Empire/Austria
Carlos I of Spain

I may just have to make him Cassimir the Great too. ( Poland is less restrictive to Germany and more restrictive to Russia than Austria on a Real World Map )

[Brent]

Feephi: That's not the Austrian unique unit. That's the leaderhead for the Californian civilization.

[Alexander I]

Well, the Austrians may not be particularly stellar, and there might be a bit of a redundancy with Germany, but I'd still take them over the Iroquois any day.

[Wernazuma III]

Is there a city list for Austria somewhere? Not that I wouldn't already have made one...

[Ckibler]

Originally posted by Uber KruX
yes, i believe they have a cavalry UU. the game is hardcoded to 31 civs for memory purposes, and they simply could nto add a 32nd civ into the default game without major changes to the code itself. it's not like they just wrote the number 31 down and can change it easily.

Spot on!

[Ckibler]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
Is there a city list for Austria somewhere? Not that I wouldn't already have made one...

Yes. Open up the "Napoleonic Europe" Conquest, and access the Austria civilization.

[Alexander I]

Excellent! So do they use the Austria setup that was previously made, or is it simply superimposed on top of another civilization?

In other words, is the Austria civ in the scenario really Austria, or is it another civ renamed as Austria?