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  • Thanks for that Catt I intented to try that, but forgot. Can they form an army and then be disband for 100 shields?

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    • Dissident is this a font issue? It seems I saw one of these posted before PTW came out.

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      • Originally posted by vmxa1
        Thanks for that Catt I intented to try that, but forgot. Can they form an army and then be disband for 100 shields?
        Yes - provided that you have enough cities to build another army. I only discovered this because at the two different instances I had either reached my max on number of armies, or I didn't need another army and wanted to rush more than 100 shields.

        Catt

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        • I have to say that after about a week, there have been amazingly few serious bugs reported. I kind of hope that we find one or two (or that Breakaway/Firaxis considers the gpt bug serious) so that we get a patch and can squeeze a few more features in (like...I don't know...maybe...stack bombard and collateral damage from bombardment?)

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          • Originally posted by RobC
            I have to say that after about a week, there have been amazingly few serious bugs reported.
            Agreed -- surprisingly few serious bugs.

            I kind of hope that we find one or two (or that Breakaway/Firaxis considers the gpt bug serious) so that we get a patch and can squeeze a few more features in (like...I don't know...maybe...stack bombard and collateral damage from bombardment?)
            The gpt bug is quite serious -- I think that's the biggest of all and should be fixed ASAP. It further exacerbates the disproportionate power of tech trading in the late game for the human.

            Catt

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            • Originally posted by alva
              However, when I exit the program, I cannot start any other application or open any other window


              It was ok under CIV 3 vanilla, got worse under PTW and now it looks as id the trend continues.
              I can't really open anything after closing PTW for about 30 sec.
              Try doing the same and see what happens.
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              512 MB RAM
              Windows 98

              In general !:
              Win 98 can't really handle more then 256MB, up to 374MB you will have a staus quo or at best an minimal improvement, after that it's all downhill (minor at first, more the more memory you push in )
              Best advice I can give you on this is to switch (upgrade) to XP.
              From the data I've seen the the optimum amount of RAM under win98 is 96MB. Anything over that amount slows it down. I havent seen data for anything over 128MB but thats not so surprising given that when win98 came out PC's generally had 16 or 32MB and 64MB was really only in high end machines.

              I'm not totally sure why the system resources stay allocated after quitting civ on these sytems but the lag is gone for me with winXP (but it could be hardware improvements too).
              We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
              If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
              Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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              • I'm kicking myself for turning off autosave.

                In the epic game I'm playing, I was checking the AI Civs every turn in the Industrial Age to ensure my tech lead (I'd really like an SGL eventually... still hasn't happened), and to see if I could trade/steal any new techs the AI actually managed before I got there. Anyway...

                The Hittites and Portugese had around 1700 gold and 2300 gold respectively on one turn, the next turn they had around 12000 and 23000... uh, where did all the gold come from?? They were the only AI Civs with any available gold, so it didn't come from other Civs.

                No saves, unfortunately, but something to keep an eye out for.
                "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
                "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
                "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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                • Originally posted by Stuie
                  I'm kicking myself for turning off autosave.

                  In the epic game I'm playing, I was checking the AI Civs every turn in the Industrial Age to ensure my tech lead (I'd really like an SGL eventually... still hasn't happened), and to see if I could trade/steal any new techs the AI actually managed before I got there. Anyway...

                  The Hittites and Portugese had around 1700 gold and 2300 gold respectively on one turn, the next turn they had around 12000 and 23000... uh, where did all the gold come from?? They were the only AI Civs with any available gold, so it didn't come from other Civs.

                  No saves, unfortunately, but something to keep an eye out for.
                  Who knows - perhaps they made several gpt deals with each other that turn and also get the benefits of the gpt bug - they both make deals for 1000 gpt (as if) but both collect 2000 gpt, giving each of them a sudden profit of 1000 gpt which comes from nowhere. Not very likely to generate 20,000 gold in one turn doing that though.

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                  • Originally posted by vulture
                    Not very likely to generate 20,000 gold in one turn doing that though.
                    Yeah, I thought about the gpt bug, but the amounts were just way too high to believe that was the root cause.

                    I'm turning autosave back on and starting another game. I feel like this one is ruined, since I'm taking their new found wealth in exchange for my techs.
                    "Stuie has the right idea" - Japher
                    "I trust Stuie and all involved." - SlowwHand
                    "Stuie is right...." - Guynemer

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                    • about the no palace/aerial view thing - does this mean if i edit the rules to, say, allow a larger map size, i won't have a palace or aerial view?
                      it's just my opinion. can you dig it?

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                      • Civil Engineers

                        Is anybody else using civil engineers.

                        I am finding that unlike scientists and tax collectors the new civil engineer specialist does not affect the data displayed either in the city view or the domestic advisor screen. The Civil Engineer does appear to affect the actual shields applied to production but the actual shield count is not accurately reflected in any displayed totals.

                        This is particularly annoying when you are (for example) trying to find your most productive cities for wonder building or fine tuning a large city to build an improvement on a particular turn.
                        Martin
                        I think therefore I CIV

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                        • Corruption is messed up.

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                          • anyone have a problem with units moving by themselves?

                            I was waging war as the Mayans. I was using the number pad to move units. I would press- say 6, to move a unit. Then the next unit would come up and move the same direction without me pressing anything! I know I didn't press 6 twice or hold it down.

                            It was really annoying me to the point I stopped waging war (plus my empire was getting too stretched out).

                            But it only seemed to happen when I was waging war.

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                            • empty barricades in neutral land stop everyone, even if you just built it.

                              was that intended?
                              "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                              - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                              • odd AI behavior, alliances

                                probably been around for a while, thought I would mentionit.

                                got an alliance with Maya to attack Celts. after 20 turns, maya asks me to renew, I renew and get 250 gold out of the matter. immediately after I hit yes, the maya declare peace with celts. at my turn I go to "active" under maya and see nothing, so I get peace with Celts.

                                Basically stealing 250 gold from the Maya. Not good.

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