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  • #91
    Originally posted by player1
    -So it's good chance that last Seafaring combo with Industrious will get Carthage
    That will make me really angry. But you're probably right. Who knows though, maybe the FRENCH will be seafaring and industrious... it makes a certain amount of sense.
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    • #92
      speaking of trait combos. until now there were 15 combinations (6*5/2), now there'll be 28 (8*7/2). do you think every combo will have at least 1 civ? (and 3 combos have 2 civs). it would mean redistributing more than just england.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by sabrewolf
        speaking of trait combos. until now there were 15 combinations (6*5/2), now there'll be 28 (8*7/2). do you think every combo will have at least 1 civ? (and 3 combos have 2 civs). it would mean redistributing more than just england.
        hi ,

        well lets hope we see a couple civ's with unique trait combos like the US

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        • #94
          you don't need to hope for that. there wont be any 3-trait-civs and there definetly won't be any wierd 9th trait for the US...
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          • #95
            I wonder which combos will get repeated?

            I'm willing to bet Agricultural-Industrious, Religious-Militaristic and Religious-Scientific.

            That would, to me, suggest America and China, Aztecs and Celts, and Babylon and Maya, but seeing as how the Hittites are classified as Expanionist and Commercial, I frankly don't know what to expect.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by sabrewolf
              you don't need to hope for that. there wont be any 3-trait-civs and there definetly won't be any wierd 9th trait for the US...
              hi ,

              huh at present the US only has two traits , ....

              but they have a unique combo that no-one else has , .....

              that was the point , to see acouple civs with combos that no-one else has , .....

              have a nice day
              - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
              - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
              WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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              • #97
                sorry, i read wrong... instead of "unique trait combo" i saw "unique trait" ... sorry
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                • #98
                  Judging by the known combos, don't expect many changes.

                  My guess is:

                  Mil, Sci: Germany
                  Mil, Rel: Aztecs, Japan
                  Mil, Agr: Mayans, Celts (the civs for this trait was the hardest to pick, and yet I put 2 civs here)
                  Mil, Ind: Ottomans (I replaced Sci with Mil to leave Persia where it was)
                  Mil, Com: Rome
                  Mil, Sea: Vikings (or Scandanavians if you have to call them it. Very much a Seafaring civ)
                  Mil, Exp: Mongols, Zulu
                  Sci, Rel: Babylon
                  Sci, Agr: Sumeria (The desert irrigation bonus reminded me of Sumeria)
                  Sci, Ind: Persia
                  Sci, Com: Greece
                  Sci, Sea: Byzantine (confirmed)
                  Sci, Exp: Russia
                  Rel, Agr: Iroquois (So the Arabs can be exp, I think it is more fitting anyway).
                  Rel, Ind: Egypt
                  Rel, Com: India
                  Rel, Sea: Spain (Spanish Armada, etc)
                  Rel, Exp: Arabs
                  Agr, Ind: China (I noticed Agr, Ind was open and I couldn't resist the chance to put them here)
                  Agr, Com: Korea (I honestly don't know much about Korea, but I left Greece in Sci, Com, so I moved the Koreans here)
                  Agr, Sea: Netherlands (confirmed)
                  Agr, Exp: Inca (confirmed)
                  Ind, Com: France
                  Ind, Sea: Carthage (someone mentioned a good reason. I don't know why Carthage is Ind, but they are definately are Sea, and all other Seafaring traits are taken)
                  Ind, Exp: America
                  Com, Sea: England (confirmed)
                  Com, Exp: Hittites (confirmed)
                  Sea, Exp: Portugal (confirmed)
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                  • #99
                    I've read somewhere the Babylonians are now agricultural. My money is on the Maya for Scientific Religious
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                    • Originally posted by Spiffor
                      I've read somewhere the Babylonians are now agricultural. My money is on the Maya for Scientific Religious
                      Why Scientific?

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                      • Sorry to dig up an old issue, but…
                        Originally posted by GhengisFarb

                        Mine change all the time. Its called the Editor.
                        I didn't mean what the traits do, or who has which trait, but rather the fact that traits are always pre-assigned before you start playing.
                        Or do you mean changing traits mid-game with the editor? I was unaware that was possible (if it is).

                        I don't think jumping down peoples throat because they discuss things they would like to see improved in the game is necessarily the way to go. If no one ever commented about things they would like changed or bugs they found in the game it probably wouldn't have been patched and expanded like it has.
                        I certainly didn't mean to be harsh, and I apologize if I was, but perhaps you can see my criticism as another part of the feedback process. Not all ideas are created equal, not all fit with the spirt of the game. I was attempting to argue that civ is about gameplay and not about historical simulation, and therefore changes based purely on history would not fit with the sprit of civ.

                        Yes if no one complained perhaps we would not have good changes, but if you add every idea you simply end up with an incoherent mess. Criticism of an idea is a necessary part of the implementation process.

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                        • Originally posted by Spiffor
                          I've read somewhere the Babylonians are now agricultural. My money is on the Maya for Scientific Religious
                          That's been a confirmed mistake by the website. I think they were thinking of Sumeria (or just plain mistaken)
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                          • Originally posted by GhengisFarb

                            Why Scientific?
                            hi ,

                            well they where forward for the time , they invented things we as people are still trying to understand till this day , .....

                            have a nice day
                            - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                            - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                            WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                            • Originally posted by GhengisFarb
                              Why Scientific?
                              They had a developed astronomy and a developed mathematics. Some of these advances still puzzle our scientists today.
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                              • Originally posted by Louis XXIV
                                That's been a confirmed mistake by the website. I think they were thinking of Sumeria (or just plain mistaken)
                                Or maybe things changed...
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