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Originally posted by player1
-So it's good chance that last Seafaring combo with Industrious will get Carthage
That will make me really angry. But you're probably right. Who knows though, maybe the FRENCH will be seafaring and industrious... it makes a certain amount of sense.
speaking of trait combos. until now there were 15 combinations (6*5/2), now there'll be 28 (8*7/2). do you think every combo will have at least 1 civ? (and 3 combos have 2 civs). it would mean redistributing more than just england.
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Originally posted by sabrewolf
speaking of trait combos. until now there were 15 combinations (6*5/2), now there'll be 28 (8*7/2). do you think every combo will have at least 1 civ? (and 3 combos have 2 civs). it would mean redistributing more than just england.
hi ,
well lets hope we see a couple civ's with unique trait combos like the US
I'm willing to bet Agricultural-Industrious, Religious-Militaristic and Religious-Scientific.
That would, to me, suggest America and China, Aztecs and Celts, and Babylon and Maya, but seeing as how the Hittites are classified as Expanionist and Commercial, I frankly don't know what to expect.
Originally posted by sabrewolf
you don't need to hope for that. there wont be any 3-trait-civs and there definetly won't be any wierd 9th trait for the US...
hi ,
huh at present the US only has two traits , ....
but they have a unique combo that no-one else has , .....
that was the point , to see acouple civs with combos that no-one else has , .....
Judging by the known combos, don't expect many changes.
My guess is:
Mil, Sci: Germany
Mil, Rel: Aztecs, Japan
Mil, Agr: Mayans, Celts (the civs for this trait was the hardest to pick, and yet I put 2 civs here)
Mil, Ind: Ottomans (I replaced Sci with Mil to leave Persia where it was)
Mil, Com: Rome
Mil, Sea: Vikings (or Scandanavians if you have to call them it. Very much a Seafaring civ)
Mil, Exp: Mongols, Zulu
Sci, Rel: Babylon
Sci, Agr: Sumeria (The desert irrigation bonus reminded me of Sumeria)
Sci, Ind: Persia
Sci, Com: Greece
Sci, Sea: Byzantine (confirmed)
Sci, Exp: Russia
Rel, Agr: Iroquois (So the Arabs can be exp, I think it is more fitting anyway).
Rel, Ind: Egypt
Rel, Com: India
Rel, Sea: Spain (Spanish Armada, etc)
Rel, Exp: Arabs
Agr, Ind: China (I noticed Agr, Ind was open and I couldn't resist the chance to put them here)
Agr, Com: Korea (I honestly don't know much about Korea, but I left Greece in Sci, Com, so I moved the Koreans here)
Agr, Sea: Netherlands (confirmed)
Agr, Exp: Inca (confirmed)
Ind, Com: France
Ind, Sea: Carthage (someone mentioned a good reason. I don't know why Carthage is Ind, but they are definately are Sea, and all other Seafaring traits are taken)
Ind, Exp: America
Com, Sea: England (confirmed)
Com, Exp: Hittites (confirmed)
Sea, Exp: Portugal (confirmed)
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I've read somewhere the Babylonians are now agricultural. My money is on the Maya for Scientific Religious
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I didn't mean what the traits do, or who has which trait, but rather the fact that traits are always pre-assigned before you start playing.
Or do you mean changing traits mid-game with the editor? I was unaware that was possible (if it is).
I don't think jumping down peoples throat because they discuss things they would like to see improved in the game is necessarily the way to go. If no one ever commented about things they would like changed or bugs they found in the game it probably wouldn't have been patched and expanded like it has.
I certainly didn't mean to be harsh, and I apologize if I was, but perhaps you can see my criticism as another part of the feedback process. Not all ideas are created equal, not all fit with the spirt of the game. I was attempting to argue that civ is about gameplay and not about historical simulation, and therefore changes based purely on history would not fit with the sprit of civ.
Yes if no one complained perhaps we would not have good changes, but if you add every idea you simply end up with an incoherent mess. Criticism of an idea is a necessary part of the implementation process.
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