A Divided Nation - Creation Thread

[civ2units]

Originally posted by GhostOfDisco
I'll see what I've got so far in my Sobieski scenario and hopefully give you some advice...

Great to hear this from you.

I´ve got a little problem, maybe someone here could help me. I finished the techtree for my scenario, everything works. But when I start a savegame with this techtree and use the cheats for going faster through the techs the game crashes and get me back to the desktop without any message. I don´t know what´s wrong with the file.

Here is the rules file:


If someone could look over it I would be very happy.

[McMonkey]

Civ2units

The map is pretty much ready. I would say it is now good enough to use but I have some time over the next few days to add the finishing touches that will perfect it. By all means feel free to make any alterations you need to for your scenario, I will not be in the least bit offended

Just thought I ought to let you know how it was progressing as I have been a bit lazy over the last few weeks. Hopefully I can send you the files this weekend!

[McMonkey]

MAP

Attached it the finished map. By all means feel free to cut it up and modify it to suit your scenario. I have not widened any of the ocean-rivers but that is easy enough to do with the map editor or in cheat mode when you are placing cities, roads etc...

Hope it is what you were expecting. I am quite happy with the result and one day I plan to use it for a six player ACW multiplayer game with three generals on each side working as a team. For now though I need to finish off Rise of the Dictators.







Hopefully I will have enough time at work tonight (Sunday's are normally the graveyard shift) to make a save game with all the cities added on. This will make it much easier for you to place them. Unfortunately the grid references in the map editor do not correspond with the ones in game. I will try and post that either tonight or tomorrow.

Enjoy

[civ2units]

Wow, this is a real great and fantastic map of the United States. I´m really enjoying to use the map for my ACW scenario.
Great work, McMonkey

Thanks very much.

Please feel free to post the savegame with the city placements.

[fairline]

Looks like an excellent US map Drew

[Arthedain]

Indeed, it's totally awesome!

[McMonkey]

Thanks

Here is the save game with the cities placed. I have not worked out who owns them, just their location. I have started placement of roads based on a map I have of the railroad network of the period though that is not complete yet.

I guess on a map of this scale careful consideration must be given to unit movement rates and the road movement multiplier. Also the placement of roads will be key to getting the AI to behave in a historical manner.

[civ2units]

Is it possible to remove any city improvements via events?
I know that it is possible with the techs but don´t know if it also works with improvements.

The event file is now ready, I´m making some playtestings to see how everything works.

[MacGalleo]

Originally posted by civ2units
Is it possible to remove any city improvements via events?
I know that it is possible with the techs but don´t know if it also works with improvements.

I don't think it's possible... You can only give an improvement with the "bestowimprovement" action :

BestowImprovement:

Gives the specified city improvement or wonder to a city owned by the named civilization, without cost. The improvement index number is the position of the particular improvement in the list in the rules.txt file. Remember that the index numbers begin at zero (Nothing), and only go up to 67 (Cure for Cancer). Race is the civilization that is to get the improvement. What city the gift is placed in is determined for you. Each city is given a rating based on its size, whether it's the capital, and how many wonders are in the city. If you set the capital parameter False (or No or Off), this calculation ignores the capital factor. The wonders parameter controls the wonder factor in the same way. The top rated city gets the improvement unless you include the optional Randomize parameter, in which case the city is chosen at random from the top ten.

Originally posted by civ2units The event file is now ready, I´m making some playtestings to see how everything works.

interesting...

[civ2units]

Hm, I thought that it doesn´t work.

While working with McMonkeys USA map I decided to use the Eastern part for an updated version of my AWI scenario. Like the Civilwar scenario I will more concentrate on some major battles to make the game interesting.

[civ2units]

I´m looking for some important american companies during the civilwar which I can use for wonders. Especially I´m looking for an important cotton trader, a ranch and a dockyard/shipyard either north or south.

[civ2units]

Here are the wonders, which I would like to use in the scenario. If someone has any suggestions or would change anything, please feel free to write it here.

Homestead Act (Pyramids) => Washington
Independence Hall (Hanging Gardens) => Philadelphia
First Bank of America (Colossus) => New York
Naval Drydocks (Lighthouse) => Norfolk
Great Manitu (Oracle) => Sioux City
Ft. James Jackson (Great Wall) => Savannah
West Point (Sun Tzus Academy) => Kingston
Tredegar Ironworks (Richards Crusade) => Richmond
The Capitol (Michelangelos Chapel) => Washington
Cemetery Hill (Copernicus) => Gettysburg
Royal British Navy (Magellan) => London
French Quarter (Shakespeare) => New Orleans
St. Patrick's Cathedral (Bach Cathedral) => New York
New York University (Newtons College) => New York
Union Pacific Railroads (Smith Trading) => St. Louis
The White House (Eiffel Tower) => Washington
Pinkerton Detective Agency (Womens Suffrage) => Chicago
Secession! (Cure of Cancer) => Charleston

[Elensar]

First Bank of America (Colossus) => New York
Naval Drydocks (Lighthouse) => Norfolk
Tredegar Ironworks (Richards Crusade) => Richmond
The Capitol (Michelangelos Chapel) => Washington
Royal British Navy (Magellan) => London
St. Patrick's Cathedral (Bach Cathedral) => New York
New York University (Newtons College) => New York
The White House (Eiffel Tower) => Washington
Pinkerton Detective Agency (Womens Suffrage) => Chicago
Secession! (Cure of Cancer) => Charleston

Deleted ones are ones that for some reason or another I feel leery on.

I definately like the idea of the Tredegar Ironworks as King Richard's Crusade - both as a history fan and a scenario player.

The rest work well enough.

[civ2units]

Do you have any other suggestions (like important buildings or companies) for the wonders? The Tredegar Ironworks is the only big company I found.

[Elensar]

Let's see.

I'm not sure what you're doing with technology in this scenario (maybe its earlier in this thread but I'm lazy and don't want to check) - but if you're doing something where it would be appropriate, something where you seek to build Darwin's Voyage by some other name would be good.

Hm. For those who know scenario design better than I do, if you have "Darwin's Voyage" appear via event, does it do what it is supposed to do?

If so, that gives me an idea, but techs would have to be set up so as to support something where you get them.

Industrial Supremacy (Hover Dam) in...somewhere in New York.

Something to do with a thriving economy for Adam Smith's.

Incidently, now that I think about it, I am reluctant to suggest using a Democracy (or Republic) for the Confederacy or Union - troops outside the "city" aren't a problem, its losses that are a problem.

But that's another thought.

As for wonders, hm.

I'd try to use things like people as much as buildings or companies.

Having a wonder in Richmond (working as Shakespeare theater) representing Lee sounds very appropriate.