Classic scenarios for S-League

[McMonkey]

Maybe not up to your high standards but I am sure they are pretty good!

Ow go on

[Mercator]

Excellent work McMonkey!

One note though. It seems as though everything is being categorised as either MGE or ToT. I see it's not just you doing that, so I suppose I have a general question/suggestion about the wiki...

There are a large number of scenarios that were made for FW (especially the classics as you're working on now). Categorising those as MGE is misleading. It might not matter for people with MGE, since they can play anything up to MGE anyway, but for those with only FW or CiC it would be handy to see the difference.

I could add FW and CiC categories and make them subcategories of the MGE category...

Originally posted by McMonkey
Can someone explain what each of the three dots (Dark blue, light blue and orange) on the green borders of the CITIES gif control.

The orange dots indicate the top-left corner of the city size box. The dark blue dots indicate the bottom of the flag pole.

I'm not sure where you're getting light blue dots from. Are you seeing three pairs of dots on each city, or just two pairs with differing colours? I'd guess the light blue is actually the same as the orange, but the units file has a slightly different palette where cyan takes the place of orange.

The colours are bound to the palette indices.

[Eivind IV]

You're doing a priceless job collecting those scen's McMonkey!

Apart from those already there or mentioned, here's some that comes to mind, in no particular order:

A World At War, by BKA
Ansteig and Up the Deadly Boot by John Petroski
Historibus Europae, by Henrik Lohmander
The 30 Years' War, by Jesús Muñoz Fernández by
Crisis of the New World Order, by Andrew P. Livings
Roman Riots II by St. Leo
Vikings: Across the Oceans by Mathias Köster
Cross and Crescent by Bernd Brosing
South American Crisis by Academia
Atomic Eagle by Harry Tuttle
Vendetta 2 by Curt Sibling
Bitterfrost (for MGE) by Curt Sibling

I'm sure there are plenty more to add, but these are the ones that comes to mind.

[McMonkey]

@Mercator

Good point about the FW and CiC. I had not thought of this as I have owned a copy of MGE for years now. I think I gave my FW and CiC discs to friends!

[SIZE=1]I could add FW and CiC categories and make them subcategories of the MGE category...

If you are offering to add those categories then I would say go ahead. If you meant to type 'would' instead of 'could' then I will look into doing it!

Re: Dots
I only noticed the light blue dots when I took a look at another scenario (can't remember which) and saw all three. I guess the light blue is not important.

Now I know how these dots affect the positions of the flags/size boxes I can finish off my mod. Thanks!

[McMonkey]

@Eivind

I have worked out a very quick method for making the pages.
First I get all the images and downloads ready on my desktop.
Next I upload them and add the links to a notepad.
I then copy and paste someone else's page and use the read me info to modify the text.
I then add in the images and download link and the job is done.
It is really a very quick process when you have a system.

I think it is good to get all the classics together in one place. The Spanish Apolyton site is a good source and is well laid out. CFC has a lot of good scenarios, but it also has a lot of very poor ones and it is not always easy to tell which is which.

Some scenarios, such as Casus Belli, would be very difficult to find unless you were specifically looking for them.

I would also like to add more graphics to the resources section but it is very time consuming getting them into a logical and tidy order. Maybe something to work on another time. Slowly, slowly, catchy monkey!

[Cyrion]

Sounds ressource

McMonkey, there is something else I wouldn't mind having: a compilation of unit sounds classified by genre (cavalry, gun, sword, monster, etc...).

Just to keep you busy once you have finished your other S-League compilations!

(I could say I'll do it myself, but... you would all be into retirement before I finish that...)

[McMonkey]

Thats a good idea Cyrion. Something to add to the list!

I also thought that a section for utilities, tools and knowledge would be useful. I know all these are out there already but to be able to bring them all together in one place would be cool.

This could include simple things like diagrams of how to modify the gif files (IE where to place blue/orange dots ) and practical advice on modifying the rules and events files as well as need tricks for scenario designers.

It is easy to assume that this knowledge is universal but there are still new designers coming through!

What I may do is keep things simple and just add links to great existing sites like Mercator's and Cradle of Civilization. The good thing about the Wiki is we can add and modify the info to make it easier for people to find what they are looking for.

[Mercator]

I've created the FW and CIC categories and started updating scenarios (and banned a spammer)... To save me the trouble of downloading all uploaded MGE scenarios and checking the version for each I'm assuming you, Eivind, Curt Sibling, Jim Panse, Harry Tuttle, Exile and kobayashi all only made MGE scenarios. Is that correct?

[McMonkey]

Nice work!

I have only ever used MGE. I would assume the others are the same. How do you check though? Do you just check the read me or is there a more cunning way?

[Mercator]

Done... I haven't added any descriptions to the new category pages, though, (only the box covers) since I'm too lazy...

[Mercator]

Crosspost... MGE is the only Civ2 version I *don't* have, but I've used Cedric's MGE patch a couple of times when I needed to test something badly.

The 11th byte in a savegame/scenario file is a file version number (to differentiate the changes in the savegame format due to changes in the game). The most common versions are:
39=CiC and before (down to v2.42 at least)
40=FW
44=MGE v1.3
49=ToT v1.0
50=ToT v1.1

I actually just added a little tag in MapEdit (my secret, unreleased, work-in-progress version ) that shows that number. So I just download/open the zip, drag&dop the scenario file onto MapEdit and I've got the answer.

[Exile]

Mine are all MGE--only platform I've ever owned.

I repeat; WHERE can I find the Mamelukes and other Hereson scens? What site? They're not on ACS nor CivFan nor Spanish site.

[McMonkey]

For Outremer see post #1 here:

Outremer

Its all in Polish, but if you click the first link you go to a download page.

For Mamelukes:

Mamelukes

For Fading Lights:

Fading Lights

CivilizationII > Bestonet > Middle Ages

I could not find a download for Komnenai anywhere but I have a copy that I will upload to the Scenario League Wiki tommorow. I will upload the others too!

[Eivind IV]

Originally posted by Mercator
(...) I'm assuming you, Eivind (...)

Of the ones on SL, yes.

[Heresson]

btw of Mamluks, I think I screwed something btw of fixing it. Dumb Frank civ seems to be disbanding its most worthy units. But I'll have to play it a couple of times to know for sure. If it continues to be so, I'll have to fix it again.

Thanks for remembering about my scns.