Aeterna Civitas

[McMonkey]

ROMA:

[McMonkey]

Got most of the units shields done now including some of my own creations which I am fairly pleased with. I have also revised all of the city flags to historically accurate symbols.

Quite a few new cities have been added by deleting some less relevant ones and the ownership of some cities has been swapped to make for more rivalry in the multiplayer version.

Could someone tell me where to find the text pop-up about the new paratrooper and engineer abilities. I have been searching the game file in vain!

[Exile]

You can speed up the barbarian movement . . . . if you cover the map. The barbarians that are moving--and not being seen--don't take much time.

Of course, this means more work for the designer, as you have to cover the map and then go back with a custom air-scout unit and reveal territory for EACH civ, (and barbarians). Still, the outcome is better for the player, AND has the advantage of injecting an element of exploration into the game.

[McMonkey]

@Exile
Thats what I did in the original version of Aeterna Civitas and I may well use it in the single player Roman version. I think it is unnecessary in the multiplayer game as you cannot see the barbarian moves anyway.

@Jerec
I took your advice and added another Celtic unit, the Galatian Warrior. This is a Blade unit like the Princepe. I have also given the city of Ancyra in Anatolia to the Celts and set up a barbarian creation unit nearby so the Celts can recruit more Galatians (or their enemies can recruit them!). I know the Galatians did not take Ancyra until 278BC but I don't think this minor historical inaccuracy is too big a sin!

[Jerec]

Originally posted by McMonkey
@Jerec
I took your advice and added another Celtic unit, the Galatian Warrior. This is a Blade unit like the Princepe. I have also given the city of Ancyra in Anatolia to the Celts and set up a barbarian creation unit nearby so the Celts can recruit more Galatians (or their enemies can recruit them!). I know the Galatians did not take Ancyra until 278BC but I don't think this minor historical inaccuracy is too big a sin!

Wonderful!

Could someone tell me where to find the text pop-up about the new paratrooper and engineer abilities. I have been searching the game file in vain!

It's in game .txt, near the bottom. The file itself is huge.

[McMonkey]

Thanks, found it eventually!

I have already cut the Bruttian Warrior and replaced it with the Galatian. I am now considering cutting the Campanian Warrior too and just having one type of Latin infantry to represent Etruscans, Bruttians, Campanians, Apulians etc... I will keep the Samnites though as they were a very important rival/ally of the Romans/Greeks/Carthaginians.

This will free up another unit space. I am considering adding Latin Cavalry unless someone can suggest a more important unit to add. I am also considering cutting the two Parthian units that the Seleucids can build later in the game and adding Asian Elephants and some kind of cheap Persian Infantry unit. Suggestions are welcome!

I will post the current Units file and list for scrutiny as I would like to make the list final!

[McMonkey]

Units file:

[McMonkey]

@UNITS
Slaves, nil, 0, 2.,0, 0a,2d, 1h,1f, 3,0, 5, nil, 000000000000000
Engineer, U1, 0, 2.,0, 0a,3d, 2h,1f, 5,0, 5, Plu, 000000000000000
Equites, X1, 0, 4.,0, 5a,2d, 1h,2f, 7,0, 0, Tac, 000000000000011
Hellenic Cavalry, U2, 0, 4.,0, 5a,2d, 1h,2f, 7,0, 0, Hor, 000000000000010
Gaul Warband, X3, 0, 2.,0, 6a,2d, 2h,4f, 4,0, 0, nil, 000000000000000
Gaul Warrior, X3, 0, 2.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,2f, 4,0, 0, Iro, 000000000000000
General, nil, 0, 4.,0, 8a,4d, 2h,3f,12,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000011
German Warrior, X6, 0, 2.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,2f, 4,0, 0, Iro, 000000000000000
Rich Village, nil, 0, 0.,0, 1a,4d, 1h,1f, 1,0, 7, Ato, 000000000000000
Mountain Slinger, U1, 0, 2.,0, 3a,2d, 1h,3f, 3,0, 0, Ato, 000001000000110
Horsemen, U1, 0, 6.,0, 3a,2d, 1h,3f, 3,0, 0, nil, 000000000000011
Cretan Archer, U1, 0, 2.,0, 3a,4d, 2h,2f, 3,0, 0, Ato, 000001000000110
Dacian Falxman, nil, 0, 2.,0, 6a,2d, 2h,4f, 4,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000000
Celtiberian Warrior, X7, 0, 2.,0, 6a,2d, 2h,4f, 4,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000000
Dacian Warrior, nil, 0, 2.,0, 5a,4d, 3h,4f, 4,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000000
Gaul Cavalry, X3, 0, 4.,0, 5a,2d, 1h,2f, 6,0, 0, Hor, 000000000000011
Skythian Horse, nil, 0, 6.,0, 4a,2d, 1h,3f, 6,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000011
War Elephant, nil, 0, 2.,0, 6a,2d, 1h,4f, 8,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000000
Numidian Horse, U3, 0, 6.,0, 4a,2d, 1h,3f, 6,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000011
Fortress, X1, 2, 1.,0, 0a,8d, 4h,1f,10,0, 2, Rob, 000000100000000
Campanian Warrior, nil, 0, 2.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,2f, 3,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000000
German Warband, X6, 0, 2.,0, 6a,2d, 2h,4f, 4,0, 0, nil, 000000000000000
Catapult, nil, 0, 2.,0, 10a,1d, 1h,4f, 8,0, 0, Chi, 000000001000000
Galatian Warrior, nil, 0, 2.,0, 5a,4d, 3h,4f, 6,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000000
Battering Ram, nil, 0, 2.,0, 8a,1d, 1h,3f, 6,0, 0, Mas, 000000001000000
Siege Tower, nil, 0, 2.,0, 10a,1d, 1h,3f, 7,0, 0, Lab, 000000001000000
Ballista, U1, 0, 2.,0, 6a,3d, 1h,3f, 7,0, 0, Mat, 000000001000110
Parthian Cavalry, X4, 0, 4.,0, 5a,2d, 2h,3f, 8,0, 0, Too, 000000000000000
Armenian Cavalry, U1, 0, 4.,0, 5a,2d, 1h,3f, 4,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000000
Sacred Band, X7, 0, 4.,0, 5a,2d, 1h,3f, 8,0, 0, Tac, 000000000000000
Sarmatian Cavalry, nil, 0, 4.,0, 5a,2d, 2h,3f, 8,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000000
Transport Ship, nil, 2, 10.,0, 0a,4d, 2h,2f, 5,6, 4, nil, 000000000000000
Bireme, nil, 2, 12.,0, 6a,4d, 2h,2f, 6,1, 2, Pot, 000000000000001
Corvus Quinquereme, U1, 2, 8.,0, 11a,6d, 3h,4f,12,1, 2, Sea, 000000000000000
Quinquereme, U1, 2, 8.,0, 9a,6d, 3h,3f,10,1, 2, SE, 000000000000000
Trireme, U1, 2, 10.,0, 8a,4d, 2h,3f, 8,1, 2, AFl, 000000000000001
Hellenic Hoplite, U2, 0, 2.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,2f, 6,0, 1, nil, 000000000000000
Hellenic Phalanx, U2, 0, 2.,0, 4a,5d, 4h,2f, 7,0, 1, War, 000000000000000
Hellenic Hypaspyst, U2, 0, 2.,0, 3a,3d, 3h,2f, 5,0, 0, War, 000000000000110
Auxiliary, X1, 0, 2.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,2f, 4,0, 1, Csc, 000000000000010
African Foot, X7, 0, 2.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,2f, 5,0, 1, nil, 000000000000000
Cohort, X1, 0, 2.,0, 8a,4d, 3h,5f, 7,0, 0, Csc, 000000000000100
Legion Ensign, X1, 0, 2.,0, 0a,1d, 1h,1f, 1,0, 1, Feu, 000000000000000
Immitation Legion, U2, 0, 2.,0, 5a,4d, 3h,4f, 5,0, 0, Ldr, 000000000000000
Hastati, X1, 0, 2.,0, 3a,3d, 3h,2f, 4,0, 0, nil, 000000000000110
Principes, X1, 0, 2.,0, 5a,4d, 3h,4f, 6,0, 0, Feu, 000000000000000
Envoy, nil, 0, 2.,0, 0a,0d, 1h,1f, 5,0, 6, Env, 000000000000011
Merchant, nil, 0, 3.,0, 0a,1d, 1h,1f, 4,0, 7, Tra, 000000000000010
Triarii, X1, 0, 2.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,2f, 7,0, 1, Feu, 000000000000000
Citizen Phalanx, X7, 0, 2.,0, 4a,5d, 4h,2f, 7,0, 1, Feu, 000000000000000
Latin Warrior, nil, 0, 2.,0, 3a,3d, 3h,2f, 3,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000010
Samnite Warrior, nil, 0, 2.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,2f, 3,0, 0, Ato, 000000000000000
Skythian Foot, nil, 0, 2.,0, 3a,4d, 2h,2f, 4,0, 0, Ato, 000001000000110
Levantine Archer, U1, 0, 2.,0, 3a,4d, 2h,2f, 4,0, 0, Ato, 000001000000110
Velite, X1, 0, 2.,0, 3a,2d, 2h,3f, 4,0, 0, nil, 000001000000110
Illyrian Peltast, nil, 0, 2.,0, 3a,3d, 3h,2f, 3,0, 0, Ato, 000001000000110
Iberian Warrior, X7, 0, 2.,0, 4a,4d, 3h,2f, 4,0, 1, Ato, 000000000000000
Hellenic Psiloi, U2, 0, 2.,0, 3a,2d, 1h,3f, 4,0, 0, Bro, 000001000000110
Iberian Scutarii, X7, 0, 2.,0, 3a,3d, 3h,2f, 4,0, 0, Ato, 000001000000110
Thracian Peltast, nil, 0, 2.,0, 3a,3d, 3h,3f, 3,0, 0, Ato, 000001000000110
Parthian Horse, X4, 0, 6.,0, 4a,2d, 1h,3f, 7,0, 0, Too, 000000000000011
Gaul Chariot, X3, 0, 4.,0, 6a,1d, 1h,6f, 7,0, 0, nil, 000000000000000

[curtsibling]

The Roman fort GFX is really wonderful!

[Jerec]

Originally posted by McMonkey
Thanks, found it eventually!

You're welcome.

I have already cut the Bruttian Warrior and replaced it with the Galatian. I am now considering cutting the Campanian Warrior too and just having one type of Latin infantry to represent Etruscans, Bruttians, Campanians, Apulians etc... I will keep the Samnites though as they were a very important rival/ally of the Romans/Greeks/Carthaginians.

This will free up another unit space. I am considering adding Latin Cavalry unless someone can suggest a more important unit to add. I am also considering cutting the two Parthian units that the Seleucids can build later in the game and adding Asian Elephants and some kind of cheap Persian Infantry unit. Suggestions are welcome!

I will post the current Units file and list for scrutiny as I would like to make the list final!

Druuuid, druuuid, druuuid!! Just kidding...

Cohort stats are very good...but why Cohort? That means half a legion or some such fraction...why not just name it Legion?

Whenever I think Persian I think chariots with scyths attached and those pikemen with the square shields.

*edit* Here's a pic. These are miniatures, I actually own this set. Note the pikemen with the shields.

[Jerec]

What significance the does the Legion Ensign hold? I can't figure that out...and IIRC it should be Legion Standard Bearer.

[McMonkey]

I think you will have to make do with the Galatians

Re: Cohort
I guess I could call this unit Legion. Each unit would not represent an entire Legion (else the Romans would end up with hundreds of Legions!) but I can't see any harm in calling it that as whatever I call it will probably be slightly inaccurate. Added to the list!

Re: Legion Standard Bearer
If that is a more accurate name then I will add it to the list too. The only purpose of the Standard Bearer is admin and pride! I know I will use it but I guess more pragmatic players will ignore it. I could give it better stats but I don't want the player to build hundreds of them. I could also create an event that is triggered when the Standard Bearer is killed but then nobody would use them! Some more thought needs to go into making this unit worth building for all players.

[Gagliaudo]

Originally posted by McMonkey
ROMA:

Originally posted by Jerec
Whenever I think Persian I think chariots with scyths attached and those pikemen with the square shields.
*edit* Here's a pic. These are miniatures, I actually own this set. Note the pikemen with the shields.

Great!
I OWN these miniatures too !!!
Fighting against Greeks, of course

[yaroslav]

Originally posted by McMonkey
Re: Legion Standard Bearer
If that is a more accurate name then I will add it to the list too. The only purpose of the Standard Bearer is admin and pride! I know I will use it but I guess more pragmatic players will ignore it. I could give it better stats but I don't want the player to build hundreds of them. I could also create an event that is triggered when the Standard Bearer is killed but then nobody would use them! Some more thought needs to go into making this unit worth building for all players.

What about making them the unique unit that can ignore ZOC and give them high mobility? That way, you can be sure they need to be build, in order to use them to make some units advance into the barbarian ZOCs.

[Jerec]

Originally posted by yaroslav
What about making them the unique unit that can ignore ZOC and give them high mobility? That way, you can be sure they need to be build, in order to use them to make some units advance into the barbarian ZOCs.

Sounds good.