American War of Independence - Creation Thread

[civ2units]

As i wrote in another thread, i will create an american independence war scenario.

Even when the first struggle was in April 1775 nearby Concord and Lexington the scenario will begin with the declaration of independence in July 1776.

The playable nations of the scenario will be:

Americans (main power)
British (main power)
French
Spain
Dutch

Not for playable but i think they took a important part during the war are the Native Indians.
The last civ will be represent by the pirates. Also not playable.


This is the map i will use in the scenario.


My idea is a scenario where you have to build up your nation combined with the historical background. So this scenario wouldn´t be a really historical correct game.
I think it isn´t possible to simulate the whole war like it really was.

But with the events i can simulate some important battles. Like the capture of New York at the beginning of the war by the British troops. Or no negotiations between France - Britain and America - Britain.

In 1778 France will declare war to the Britains. This can i handle with the events. Bit i don´t know if i can make an alliance between France and America by the events.

The Dutch and the Spanish will represent trade or alliance partners for both nations (Americans and British).
I will make a scenario where you can win the war with the US or with Britain.

I hope you like my ideas for this scenario...

[curtsibling]

I would like to play as the natives or pirates.

I think it would be fun to try and see how long you could hold out as either...

Being the underdog can be fun!

[fairline]

Can I suggest you focus the map entirely on the Eastern seaboard of N America? Including Europe, C. America and Africa wastes the playable area and reduces your ability to recreate the conflict.

Also, I wouldn't fix the declaration of war by France on Britain to a particular date; it was dependant entirely on the US proving itself capable of being a serious player by defeating the British at Saratoga. Perhaps you could have the capture of a city or defeat of a particularly strong Brit unit by the rebels trigger France's declaration of War.

[EmuGod]

Will this scenario be made for MGE?

[techumseh]

The map needs a slight adjustment. The St. Laurence River is only navigable as far as Montreal because of the Lachine Rapids. After that, it's navigable through to the end of Lake Ontario, where the Niagara Falls again block movement. After that, I think you can sail past Detroit which is between Lake Huron and Lake Erie, and on into Lake Superior.

[civ2units]

@curtsibling:

It could be funny to play with the pirates or indians. With the pirates you can conquest the whole Carribean Sea.
But it should be very hard, the British will have powerfull battleships and a powerfull army.

@fairline:

I agree with you, there is too many ocean on the map. Also there is no need of North Africa. But i don´t have a better map. Unfortunately the map of the classic Independence scenario doesn´t include the Carribean Sea.

I have one map with only North and Central America. This map is too small for this scenario.

If someone has a better map or knows where i can download a map, please let me know.

You are right, the decleration of war between France and Britain depends on the successful battles of the Americans. It´s a good idea with the defeating of a powerfull British unit or capture of a city.

I will have a look at my history books for more information.

@EmuGod:

Sorry it will be only in TOT.

@techumseh:

I have fixed that problem.

Sorry for some gramatical and word mistakes, my English isn´t very well. I hope you all understand me.

I will make the scenario first in English, then eventually
in German.

[civ2units]

This is my new attempt for the map. I think it´s a good map know.

Independence War map

[civ2units]

hello Curt,

may I ask you to make city-styles for me? What i need is a spanish, british, french, american and dutch colonial style, a indian and a pirate city-style.

Also i need peoples for the scenario.

It would be very nice if you could make some (If you have time for it).

[curtsibling]

Nice map!

Would these items be for MGE or ToT - ?
My graphics are suited towards the ToT style, as I find the MGE colours too limited...

Although I could make them and you could see how these would look once coverted to MGE.
I will be busy for the next week or two, so I could take up your request in early December.

[civ2units]

That would be very nice, please make them in TOT format.
I will make the scenario in TOT, because MGE is too limited in nearby everything.

Early or mid December is very good, i´m working at the icons and technologies now. This part, especially the technologies, will take much time.
So i hope i will be ready with this part after mid December...

[curtsibling]

Good to hear! ToT offers much more for the scenario maker!

I will enjoy making some new cities for the 1776 era!

[Eivind IV]

Bah, TOT is overrated!

*hides*

[curtsibling]

MGE is underpowered!

[battosai]

I would seriously like to know what the differences between MGE and TOT aexactly are in scenario design issues.

[fairline]

This list from Catfish on his site sums things up nicely:

http://users.tpg.com.au/jpwbeest/jp_versions.htm

It's well worth plundering his site for great info and gfx.