My Next Project: A Poll

[fairline]

Originally posted by Boco


That's a trick I could use! I'll check when I have time.

It was used in a scenario about the Emperor Charles V and does work

[Boco]

How to incorporate US / UN reinforcements is a design decision. Simplest method is allowing the player to build them anywhere, but have a high costs that limit production to super shield cities. Or you could use tech discovery as the means to produce them. I'd vote for having cities off of the peninsula build them. If it's ToT, put the allied feeder cities on other maps, and use @UNITS_ADVANCED to dictate what can be built on each map. This approach allows the player to choose his units, but prevents the more ahistorical situations. It's pretty easy to set up. Be glad to help if needed.

@Fairline - thanks for the Chuckie 5 ref.

[Heresson]

crusades, plz!

[Eivind IV]

Originally posted by fairline
It was used in a scenario about the Emperor Charles V and does work

I may have misunderstood, but this has sparked my intrigue. Could you point me in the direction of this scen?

[Ecthy]

The US player should have a chance to opt for nuking China

[Patine]

I had originally planned for events-generated UN units, either through techs, cities captured, and/or turns, with Korean units of both types being freely buildable. Both China and the USSR can be triggered to the North Koreans' side by UN actions (though the latter never was historically, I'll likely leave it a possibility) and, once triggered, they will generate units by events like the UN. I think perhaps the UN will control South Korea, and in fact ROK forces will be all they can actually BUILD in their cities (this makes Japanese cities on the edge of the map tricky, though). As for the Bomb, both the US and Soviets had it by then, so I'm not sure how to handle the issue (certainly nuking Beijing in the '50's would have got Stalin's attention). Also, do indeed plan a grand jet airwar; in fact, I'm on the lookout for a Hawker Hunter I saw sometime ago, but can't find now. Anyone know where that may be (and is there a good B-36, and where)?

[Harry Tuttle]

Here's the B-36.


Why don't you post a unit list and we'll see what can be assembled.

[Harry Tuttle]

An F-86 Sabre, 2 A-1 Skyraiders, and A P/F-80 Shooting Star.

[Patine]

These are great, Harry! Now, I need that Hunter, as well as a good MiG-15 (I have a Tu-6 already; any other Red aircraft?), as well as some armor and motorized infantry (these were mostly late WW2 stock, right: Pershings, Shermans, Crusaders, Chruchills, and, on the other side, JS-2's, T-34's, KV-1's, etc.?). Unique infantry for the Koreas, China, US, UK, Canada, Australia, Ethiopia, and the other countries with their own units in the UN forces, plus a generic 'UN Volunteers' unit for the rest. I think I can use generic artillery and naval units, and Chris made me a great South Korean Cavalry for the early part of the war. If I'm forgetting anything big, let me know.

[Harry Tuttle]

Hmmm, an updated Mig might be hard to find. Most of them are Nemo style and haven't been touched by the hand of Fairline.

[techumseh]

Here's a list of the major aircraft types of the Korean War. Source: 'Air War Over Korea' by Jim Mesko (Squadron/Signal Publicatiions)

US aircraft:

prop: P-51, F-4U Corsair, F-82 Twin Mustang, AD4 Skyraider, T7F Tigercat, B-26, B-29

jet: F-80 Shooting Star, F-84 Thunderjet, F-86 Sabre, F2H Banshee, F9F Panther

British aircraft:

prop: P-51, Seafire, Fairly Firefly, Sea Fury

jet: Gloster Meteor F-8

North Korean aircraft:

prop: Ilyushin Il-10, Yak-9P

Chinese aircraft:

jet: MiG 15

The main tank of the NK and Chinese was the T-34/85. I think some JSU-III's were also committed. The British used the Centurion extensively, not the Churchill or Crusaders, afaik.

[Harry Tuttle]

Here's the Panther and Banshee.

[Patine]

Thanks for the list, Tech! I have some of those (fairline recently released a new Meteor), but some (like the MiG-15, will be hard to find in updated form). I had thought my Great Uncle mentioned Hawker Hunters in Korea; mind, he may have said Meteors, and last I talked to him about Korea before he died 13 years ago. Thanks for the Panther and Banshee, Harry! I think Chris might have a good model for a MiG-15 from a Tu-6 I had him do recently. If you're reading this Chris, please post! Anyways, Chris had also mentioned he may do many of the infantry. I've got most of the tanks, save a JSU-III (I might actually have that, too.)

[fairline]

The only British fighters in combat in Korea were the Sea Furies and Fireflies of the 5 Brit and 1 Aussie carriers involved (only 1 was on station at any time IIRC). The Hunter was a later a/c (1953-ish?), and in any case, I'm fairly sure no RAF fighters were involved. The only Meteors used were flown by the RAAF squadron in Korea, which started out using P-51s I think.

This site has a good list of Brit and Commonwealth forces in Korea:

http://britains-smallwars.com/korea/British-Forces.html

[Case]

That's correct - No. 77 Squadron RAAF was the only unit to use Meteors in Korea (the Meteors replaced the squadron's P-51s). The only other non-naval Commonwealth fighter squadron was No. 2 Squadron of the South African Air Force which used P-51s and later F-86 Sabres.