Units' limit

[AGRICOLA]

[curtsibling]

@Heresson:
CIV is close to being a recognised religion!

@To all:
So when does the big Red Front test begin?

[Bostero]

Originally posted by AGRICOLA
How does it allocate memory for a large array such as units? If it is like the few languages that I'm familiar with, the size of the array is declared at the beginning of the program and could be changed by hex editing.

ah yes, Agricola you are the Hex-editor man of Eivind's and Steph's scens, right?
yes you can also add more units to a "saved" file, you even can build a tool to do that job.

say:

if NumTotalUnits= 2049 then
numtotalUnits=NumtotalsUnits+1;
reallocatearray(TotalUnits, NumTotalUnits)
end;

with that sintaxis you give one unit more: 2049 units. and you resize the array of the units to add another bunch of bytes to store the new data unit.
then you start to fill new data for the new unit entry:

Unit(2049).Xlocation = 8;
Unit(2049).Ylocation = 12;
Unit(2049).Home = 6; ---> a pointer to the city array.

and so on...

you can add more units building a new tool exclusively for that, if you know any language, try it . but i dont know what would happen "in-game".
with Skyer's patch, you can build more units "in-game" without hex-editing or something, somebody should test Skyers patch, adding more and more units, the
TotalNumberofUnits field, is a 2-byte field. so i guess you can add until 32000 units average!!!! imagine saved games of more than 1 MB!!!!!

unfortunattely i work with MGE, can't test with TOT. but in theory must work.

[curtsibling]

This is encouraging!

[Heresson]

Originally posted by curtsibling
@Heresson:
CIV is close to being a recognised religion!

I'd prefer it to be an order within catholic church... kind of like fransicans or dominicans...

[curtsibling]

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Vatican knows the CIV2 Source Code...

Or is that the Da Vinci Code?

[AGRICOLA]

Originally posted by Bostero . . . . unfortunattely i work with MGE, can't test with TOT. but in theory must work.

Check out one of Skyer's threads at CFC, I believe that he has developed a nolimit units civ2.exe for MGE. I haven't tried it because it uses RAR compression rather than WinZip. I prefer not to have RAR on my computer because it tends to take over from WinZip.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=147759

See post #27 on the thread.


EDIT: Sorry, bad link.

[Arthedain]

Originally posted by AGRICOLA
I prefer not to have RAR on my computer because it tends to take over from WinZip.

That's optional. And besides, winrar is more used. You should go ahead and have both if you still like winzip that much. just make sure you open zip files with winzip.

[AGRICOLA]

Poly, CFC and other civ sites are zip shops. CFC will not even attach a .rar file.

[AGRICOLA]

MGE NOLIMITS TEST

Skyer has posted a nolimits units and nolimits cities MGE civ2.exe file at

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=147759

Post #27 on the thread.

I ran tests on both limits. The units limit was tested almost the same way as I tested the TOT units limit.

1. Renamed the civ2.exe file in the MGE folder as civ2ORIGINAL.exe .
2. Copied the new MGE.exe into the MGE folder.
3. Installed the MGE 1.3 patch.
4. Started a new game as Rome with 2 other civs.
5. Gave Rome all techs. Changed terrain to form a block of 20 glacier squares plus an isolated glacier square.
6. Created 100 spies on each of the 20 squares and 46 on the single, a total of 2046.
7. Got "Too many units" error message when tried to create unit 2047.
8. Twice bought spies in Rome and then ended the turn. The number of active units reached 2048.
9. However, when I tried it once more, the "Too many units" error message appeared. See screenshot.

Unfortunately, it does not appear that the units limit has been removed. Also puzzling is the fact that one can cheat only 2046 units whereas one can build the expected 2048.

I tested the city limit by using saves from Axis & Allies and Blitzkrieg 1936, scenarios that both start with 255 cities. In both cases, when an engineer tried to build a new city, the "Too many cities" popup appeared.

@Skyer
I think that it might be better if you made only one modification at a time. In this instance, I suspect that there may be some interaction between the change of both limits but there is no way to tell.

You are certainly making some fascinating discoveries about CIVII, discoveries that could greatly increase what is possible. However, each one will have to be thoroughly tested individually and in combination with others. No scenario designer is going to invest months of his time and effort in designing a scen that depends on some of your discoveries unless he is absolutely certain that they will work and there will be no unpleasant surprises.

EDIT: Link not working. Fixed it.

[Heresson]

Sorry, I experience difficultires dowloading the first non-units-limit download... Can someone who's downloaded it send it to me at Heresson%hoga.pl or/and komnen3%gazeta.pl? Thank You.

[Mercator]

Which file exactly is that? I can send it over... And you might want to remove your e-mail adresses so you won't get spammed even more.

[Heresson]

first page, 18th post from up, 4th of Skyer in the thread.
If You have troubles as well, would someone who's downloaded it earlier send it?

[AGRICOLA]

I sent you the thing a couple of days ago at the first address in your post. It was shown as going through ok. At 763 kb is it too big to go through?

[Heresson]

Hm? Try again (with both adresses, and of course replace % with @), please, and thank You. I have a lot of place in my mailboxes... I don't know why should it go wrong...