Empire of the Rising Sun

[Patine]

I'm starting to think that may be my problem. I've had an examination of the rules.txt, but can't yet find a looped tech requirement. Could someone please have a look at this (taken from my rules.txt) and tell me if they can see one?

Advanced Flight, 4,-2, Rad, Too, 3, 0 ; AFl
War Fever, 5,-1, nil, nil, 3, 2 ; Alp
Amphibious Warfare, 3,-2, E1, Tac, 3, 0 ; Amp
Science Drive, 4,-1, Uni, Phi, 3, 3 ; Ast
Atomic Physics, 4,-1, ToG, MP, 3, 3 ; Ato
Automobile, 6,-1, Ref, Che, 3, 4 ; Aut
Banking, 4, 1, Tra, Rep, 1, 1 ; Ban
Bridge Building, 4, 0, nil, nil, 0, 4 ; Bri
Home Front, 6, 0, nil, no, 3, 0 ; Bro
Basic Religion, 5, 1, nil, nil, 0, 2 ; Cer
Steel Production, 5,-1, Uni, Eng, 2, 4 ; Che
Malay Tech, 4,-1, nil, no, 3, 0 ; Chi
Code of Laws, 4, 1, nil, nil, 0, 2 ; CoL
Air Supremacy, 5,-1, Mob, AFl, 3, 0 ; CA
Submarine Tech, 2,-1, Stl, MP, 3, 0 ; Cmb
Communism, 5, 0, Eng, nil, 2, 2 ; Cmn
Electronics, 4, 1, X5, Cor, 3, 4 ; Cmp
Infantry Training, 7,-1, nil, nil, 2, 0 ; Csc
Adv. Construction, 4, 0, Mas, Cur, 3, 4 ; Cst
Corporation, 4, 0, Eng, Eco, 2, 1 ; Cor
Currency, 4, 1, nil, nil, 0, 1 ; Cur
Democracy, 5, 1, Ban, nil, 2, 2 ; Dem
Economics, 4, 1, Uni, Ban, 2, 1 ; Eco
Naval Tech 1, 4,-1, Che, Tac, 3, 0 ; E1
American Cities, 2, 0, no, no, 3, 2 ; E2
Industrialization, 6, 0, RR, Ban, 2, 1 ; Eng
Imperialism, 3,-1, Mon, Tac, 3, 2 ; Env
Allied Unity, 5, 1, FP, Phi, 3, 2, ; Esp
Land Surveying, 5, 0, nil, nil, 2, 4 ; Exp
Desperate Tactics, 4,-1, nil, nil, 3, 0 ; Feu
Flight, 4,-1, Che, Tac, 2, 4 ; Fli
Militarism, 3,-2, no, no, 3, 2 ; Fun
Allied Solidarity, 3, 0, Lit, Dem, 3, 2 ; FP
British Morale, 4, 0, Lit, FP, 3, 2 ; Gen
Chindit Resistance, 4, 0, nil, nil, 3, 0 ; Gue
x, 1, 0, no, no, 0, 0 ; Gun
Aust. Volunteers, 4,-1, nil, no, 3, 0 ; Hor
Soviet Cities, 2, 0, no, no, 3, 2 ; Ind
Brit/Indian Cities, 2, 0, no, no, 3, 2 ; Inv
Manchurian Tech, 4,-1, nil, no, 3, 0 ; Iro
High War Morale, 4,-1, MP, Phi, 3, 0 ; Lab
Pacific Domination, 4,-1, Env, Pla, 3, 2 ; Las
Chinese Tech, 4,-1, no, no, 3, 0 ; Ldr
Allied Morale, 5, 0, Dem, Alp, 3, 2 ; Lit
Machine Tools, 4,-2, Che, Tac, 2, 0 ; Too
Adv. Aeronautics, 4,-1, CA, Nav, 3, 0 ; Mag
Mass Plane Prodctn.,6,-1, CA, Cor, 3, 4 ; Map
Modern Construction,4, 0, nil, nil, 3, 4 ; Mas
Advanced Alloys, 5, 0, Aut, Cor, 3, 4 ; MP
Exp. Armor Design, 4,-2, U2, ToG, 3, 0 ; Mat
Moving Pictures, 4, 1, nil, nil, 3, 2 ; Med
Amphibious Vehicles,6,-2, Amp, Mob, 3, 0 ; Met
Naval Bays, 4,-1, E1, Too, 3, 4 ; Min
Mobile Warfare, 8,-1, Aut, Tac, 3, 0 ; Mob
Monarchy, 5, 1, Cer, CoL, 0, 2 ; Mon
Organized Religion, 5, 1, Cer, nil, 1, 2 ; MT
Taoism, 4, 0, Cer, nil, 0, 2 ; Mys
Adv. Air Strikes, 6,-1, AFl, Ast, 3, 0 ; Nav
Nuclear Fission, 6,-2, Ato, MP, 3, 3 ; NF
Naval Engineering, 6,-1, Stl, Cmp, 3, 0 ; NP
Wartime Ideology, 6, 1, Tac, Env, 3, 2 ; Phi
Australian Vehicles,4,-1, nil, no, 3, 0 ; Phy
Japanese Devotion, 2,-1, Phi, Fun, 3, 0 ; Pla
Pearl Harbor Attack,4, 0, nil, nil, 3, 2 ; Plu
High Octane Fuel, 4, 0, CA, NP, 3, 4 ; PT
Agriculture, 4, 1, nil, nil, 0, 1 ; Pot
Radio, 5,-1, Fli, X5, 3, 4 ; Rad
Railroad, 6, 0, Bri, nil, 2, 1 ; RR
Maritime Culture, 4, 1, nil, nil, 0, 1 ; Rec
Refining, 4, 0, Cor, nil, 2, 4 ; Ref
Refrigeration, 3, 1, X5, San, 3, 1 ; Rfg
Republic, 5, 1, Cor, nil, 0, 2 ; Rep
Vectored Trajectory,5,-2, Too, Mob, 3, 0 ; Rob
Divine Wind, 6,-2, Feu, Mag, 3, 0 ; Roc
Sanitation, 4, 2, nil, nil, 2, 1 ; San
Steel Plane Casing, 6,-1, MP, Mag, 3, 4 ; Sea
Colonial Economics, 4, 1, Gen, Eco, 3, 1 ; SFl
Supr. Aeronautics, 6,-2, PT, Sea, 3, 0 ; Sth
Long-Range Bombers, 4,-1, Sth, X6, 3, 0 ; SE
Naval Tech 2, 4,-1, E1, MP, 3, 0 ; Stl
Mass Power Source, 4, 1, Cmp, Exp, 3, 4 ; Sup
Tactics, 6,-1, Csc, nil, 2, 0 ; Tac
Imperial Loyalty, 3,-1, MT, Las, 3, 2 ; The
Research Edge, 4, 0, Ast, MP, 1, 3 ; ToG
Trade, 4, 2, Cur, CoL, 0, 1 ; Tra
University, 5, 1, nil, nil, 1, 3 ; Uni
Japanese Offensives,4,-1, nil, nil, 3, 0 ; War
Indian Patriation, 4,-1, nil, nil, 3, 0 ; Whe
Lingua Franca, 4, 2, nil, nil, 2, 3 ; Wri
Future Technology, 1, 0, ToG, Lab, 3, 3 ; ...
Cruiser Design, 4,-1, Stl, ToG, 3, 0 ; U1
Improved Armor, 4,-1, Mob, MP, 3, 0 ; U2
Heavy Naval Guns, 4,-1, X2, NP, 3, 0 ; U3
French Tech, 4,-1, nil, no, 3, 0 ; X1
Battleship Design, 4,-1, U1, NP, 3, 0 ; X2
Unique Japanese CV, 4,-1, no, no, 3, 0 ; X3
Unique American CV, 4,-1, no, no, 3, 0 ; X4
Electricity, 4, 0, nil, nil, 2, 4 ; X5
Imp. Bomber Engines,4,-1, PT, Rob, 3, 4 ; X6
Automotive Industry,4, 0, MP, nil, 3, 1 ; X7

[Boco]

Can you post the entire rules.txt? It's easier to dissect.

[Patine]

Actually, I caught the offender late last night. It was Banking, then its prequisite Republic, which here had Corporation as a prequisite, which itself had Economics and Industrialization, and they both went back to Banking. I've thus fixed that problem and loading the .scn file works, but there's still a problem. None of the techs are unique as numbered, even after that. As I recall, there's an event in ToT that will trigger that, but I can't remember what it is. Does anyone know or remember?

[KASHANKA]

OK, I'm not sure if you need this, but here is some of my stuff I originally made for the 2194 Pacific scenario:
Here is the best armored unit I probably ever made, the 94 type tankette:


Here are my 2 Japanese battleships, the Yamato and Nagato class:



Hope it helps.

[Patine]

Thanks a lot, KASHANKA! The 'Type' 94 may actually, by the looks of it, be the 'Model' 94 I was looking for (Erika may have mislabelled it, I'm not sure). Does anyone know the Type 94's name (as in, the Type 97 is the Chi-Ha)?

[Telescreen]

Toyota ^^

no actually it was called TK wich is short for "Tokushu Ken-in Sha" =) means something like special tractor

[Broken_Erika]

artillery/ammunition puller mabe?

[Patine]

Actually, I've examined all of the Japanese armor options, and I think what I want to use is the Type 97, Type 1, Type 3 (all of which I already have), and, should the Japanese hold out long enough (or really pump up research) the Type 4, which could have affected at least the mainland war (and, after all, I'm also including the J2M and the Nikojima Kikka as later aircraft, even though they never saw action, just as a hypothetical option). Problem is, I don't currently have a graphic for the Type 4. Is there anybody who can please supply me with one? Thanks!

[KASHANKA]

The "type 94" and "model 94" are both the same thing. In Japanese there is one word which can be translated both as "model" or "type".

And the TK can be translated to a "Tankette" rather than tractor. The 94 was the most common Japanese armored vechicle in China, and the 3rd most common in the Japanese army at the end of the war. (With the type 97 Chi-Ha and type 95 Ha-Go as the most common).

Its just my advice, but I'd use those 3 tanks and maybe a late war heavy tank like the Chi-Nu or Chi-Ri.

[Patine]

Sorry about the delay. Actually, those three might be alright, but I'd still also like to have a Type 4 to go along with my aircraft models that also didn't historically make it to see action (in case the Japanese last longer or pump research, or both). In other words, I'm still looking for a Type 4. Thanks KASHANKA for your help on earlier armor models, though.

[KASHANKA]

No probs, its your scenario. A heavy tank like the type 4 would be cool.

[Patine]

Say, on another note, does anyone off-hand know where the following carriers were in December of '41?
IJN Taiho
IJN Soryu
IJN Kaga
IJN Akagi
IJN Hosho
USS Essex
USS Hornet
USS Saratoga
I already know that the Enterprise was about 500 km south of Hawaii with a task force at the time of Pearl Harbor. I plan for each of these carriers to be a unique unit, given the importance of carrier warfare (each might even have a trigger attached to its destruction).

[Case]

Originally posted by Patine
I plan for each of these carriers to be a unique unit, given the importance of carrier warfare (each might even have a trigger attached to its destruction).

Won't that tie down an awful lot of unit slots? It would be better to only have a few carrier classes (after all, both the USN's and IJN's carriers were pretty similar - the only significant difference was that the US ships tended to have a somewhat better ability to take damage as a result of superior design and vastly superior damage control).

[Broken_Erika]

fun with ToT's many unit slots

[KASHANKA]

Say, on another note, does anyone off-hand know where the following carriers were in December of '41?

IJN Taiho - wasn't build yet.

IJN Soryu
IJN Kaga
IJN Akagi - All 3 were with Hiryu, Shokaku and Zuikaku launching an attack on Pearl Harbor.

IJN Hosho - In Japan, Hashirajima anchorage if I'm not mistaken (not 100% sure if it was Hashirajima).

USS Essex - wasn't build yet.
USS Hornet - in the Atlantic with the rest of the Atlantic fleet.
USS Saratoga - In San Diego

Man... I thought you at least knew what Jap Carriers struck Pearl. Anyways, if you need any more naval info just ask and will do my best to help.

Oh, and just a suggestion: do NOT waste a slot for Hosho! Hosho was a useless old crate with 15 planes max and the Japanese never even tried to use it in any serious combat. My advice is that if you want to use slots for Jap carriers, use them for the big modern ones like Shokaku and Zuikaku