Flags Needed...Again

[St Leo]

On an off-topic note, I just voted NDP in Ontario. Meh.

[Patine]

I agree with your analysis of the next election time. What's scary is that another tenant in my building was mulled into voting Conservative, and he's on welfare, mentally ill, physically handicapped, illiterate, and gay. I am seriously worried about that kind of persuasion by the Tories out here. As long as Harper isn't a solid PM, I'll be more or less satisfied. Even a minority gov't by Duceppe (and yes, it's statistically possible, if unlikely) would be better.

BTW, I kind of thought Medieval African flags would be difficult to find. I'll just do that scenario with the default monochromes, I guess.

[Boco]

Any guesses on Techumseh's vote? He lives out West and his signature is "No blood for oil!"

[Sarsstock]

Okay, here is what I could find.

1) Beehive flag referenced in the Harry Turtledove series American Front, where Mormons rebelled against America in WW1.

2) Official flag of Deseret Territory when Deseret originally petitioned to enter the Union in 1851, was officially adopted in 1896.

3) The first president of the Republic of Texas designed this flag himself in 1836, and served as the flag of the Texas Republic until 1839.

4) The second flag of the Republic of Texas, this served as their national flag until Texas joined the Union, when it became the state flag which it remains to this day.

5) The Hawaiian flag designed by Captain Hunt of H.B.M.S. (Her British Majesty's Ship) Baselisk to reflect the close relationship between Hawaii and Britain. This flag was aproved by Hawaii's King Kameihameihas III.

6) The flag of Maximillian's short lived Empire, which is basically the same as Mexico's traditional flag as best as I could tell aside from some minor modifications on the national seal.

7) This is the flag of the Imperial Japanese flag since the late nineteenth century.

[Sarsstock]

Here are the last two flags you asked for. As best as I can tell this would be the Ethiopian flag used during the rule of Haille Selassie. The second is one of many Metis flags that are described in the pages of Canadian history. This one in particular was raised Batoche, a small village in present-day northern Saskatchewan at the dawn of the Northwest Rebellion in 1885. It shows a full colour print of the Virgin Mary on a white banner.

On an off topic note... Way to go Liberals and New Democrats!!. Looks like the Grits can work with the NDP and form a pretty stable coalition government.

[Patine]

I thank you for the flags; they'll be close to perfect for what I have in mind. As for the election, it's the best a New Democrat can hope for at this point in Canadian history. I'm just glad the coalition wasn't the feared Conservative/Bloc combo.

[Patine]

One last thing, of which the election reminded me (I don't know how I could have forgotten), but an easy one: the Canadian flag at Confederation (the blue one with the Union Jack in the corner), before Pearson adopted the modern one. This should honestly be the last one for the time being.

[St Leo]

The Red Ensign was actually red with a union jack in the corner.

[Sarsstock]

Well, I was really worried there during the night, especially since one polling company, I think it was Ipsos Reid said just after the returns from Newfoundland came in that they were projecting a Conservative Minority. But we left wingers prevailed once again!!

Anyways, back on topic, here are those Canadian standards you wanted. In addition to the Union Jack on the blue ensign, I threw in the Union Jack on the red ensign just because I always liked the red flag better. And in the interest of mending ties between Ontario and Quebec I threw in the familiar flag of the province of Quebec.

[Sarsstock]

Now you mentioned that since there were no medival african flags to be found you'd go with the default. I can't let you do that as the default civ II flags are nine years old now and just plain ugly.

Here are some modifications of the old flags that I hope will prove usefull. On an off topic note again, all this talk of Canadian history and politics has really peaked my interest in a scenario about Canada in some way. Whether its about the Northwest Rebellion or a hypothetical western seperation war, I think its time the world had a Canadian conflict scenario.

[Sarsstock]

Actually, if your going to use the ripped flags use these ones, the outer edges look better. Also, I should have included these unit shields with the flags but I forgot to.

[Patine]

Thanks again, as always. If you can find (or make, or get someone to make) a good map of Canada, I'll put a Canadian-based scenario on my books as a priority. I too was worried the Tories might win, with the numbers jumping back and forth on Global last night.

[Patine]

BTW, notice Harper ended his speech "God Bless Canada." Scary!

[Sarsstock]

I had no idea Harper said that, that is scary .

My good friend Steph (Jim Panse) already has made a great map of North America, which includes everything from the lower regions of the North West Territories to southern Mexico.

Though this may be too much for a "Metis" scenario, it might be fitting for a scenario where either Quebec or the West tries to seperate by show of force. Honestly, if there were such a conflict in Canada I doubt the US would want to stay neutral.

[Patine]

I agree about U.S. involvement. Please give me a link to this map. I guess I asked for a lot of flags, but the 14th Century Moghul flag and 17th Century Korean flag got lost in the shuffle (no pressure intended). They should be a lot easier to find than Medieval African flags, however, but they are key to a series of Asian scenarios I've made ("History of Asia A and B," on the Spanish Civilization Site, currently without custom flags, but I hope to get them updated). If you do have the time, please I'd greatly appreciate those two. Thanks a lot!!!