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[rjmatsleepers]

Originally posted by solo
RJM,

It might be fun sometime to use a "rejected" start just to see how well we can do with one of these, and you might want to provide one of your own and launch a comparison game using it.

It might be an interesting exercise, but I'm not sure I'd describe it as fun. Mostly, the rejected starts lead to fairly tedious games - at least in the early years. I'm not sure what happens later on - I tend to start again if things aren't going very well by AD 1.

RJM at Sleeper's

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What is the record these days?

[solo]

Best with a small map, no rule restrictions:

16 AD by Samson


Using ELG rules (random medium map start, no human starting techs, no hut tipping, no caravan rehoming):

495 AD by me in ELG #8

On Zenon's edited map with other ELG rules in effect:

335 AD by him

[Traianvs]

impressive, I'm still toying with phalanxes at that time
more or less

[rah]

Gee, 16 AD is hard to beat
Did you have to do the build order trick to get all the parts built the same turn Apollo was built?

[Elephant]

I think the earliest Apollo can be built is 1AD, and a 15-3-3-1-1-1 is 15.7years, so it looks like he did do that to launch on 1AD and arrive on 16AD. I suppose someone could try launching a 33-8-8-1-1-1 on 1AD and arrive 6AD...

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It's been so long since I launched a ship from a full civ, I forgot the travel times.

[Traianvs]

33-8-8-1-1-1 on 1AD and arrive 6AD...

I'm going to lie down and die!

[Elephant]

All you need is 53 cities and about 15000 gold by AD1...

[rjmatsleepers]

Originally posted by Elephant
All you need is 53 cities and about 15000 gold by AD1...

Oh ... that's OK then ... for a moment there I thought it might be, well, difficult.

RJM at Sleeper's (who once had 10 cities in 1 AD)

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[Elephant]

I've seen an extreme ICS get over 50 cities by AD1, but not the accompanying tech progress to be ready to build Apollo by then.