Ozzy's Classical Eurodip: storythread

[Frank Johnson]

This is mainly an internal Gaulic issue. travellers report of small towns where the inhabitants are in a state of constant strife with each other, fights braking out each they, most of them related to the freshness of fish

I would not be so eager to dismiss the concerns of your neighbors. Our villages and towns are poised to grow tremondously, and they are already stacked in and located in a manner to make maximum use of the terrain, rather than the methods employed by more gifted nations.

Our people know of the great frotnier, and many say, we need to demand access to the Danube, to travel to the frontier, and if that is denied to us, the public will become quite riled.

[Ljube]

It is unknown where the Greek tribes come from. Some of us think our ancestors came from the northern plains and valleys of Dacia, pushed away from there by the ice age and increasingly colder climate. The others claim we came from Asia Minor because the people there speak similar language. It doesn’t really matter now. We know we didn’t originate here. We know we conquered the local people at some point in the past. And we know our first settlements were founded at the southern tip of a peninsula known as the Balkans.

We call this country Greece and from there Greek people spread all over the world. We settled Epeiros (Epirus), Illyria, Makedonia (Macedonia), the most of Thrake (Thracia), Mvoia (Moesia), Byzantion (Byzatium) and southern parts of Pannonia. We also settled entire Asia Minor, nowadays called New Greece. We unfortunately failed to settle Kypros (Cyprus), but we maintain our claim on the island and we shall endeavour to acquire it when the opportunity presents itself.

In addition to already settled land, we lay claim to the following areas: the rest of Thrake (Thracia), Dacia, Pannonia, Krim (Crimea), Taras (Tarentum), Kypros (Cyprus) and Krete (Crete). We would also be willing to arrange a division of Dacia with the Romans and possibly include Pannonia in the deal. No such agreement exists, though noble Romans made two suggestions on various lines of separation of spheres of influence, both of which our wise king Alexandros (Alexander) the Great deemed unfair towards Greece and declined to either accept or reject. But he didn’t want to endanger friendly relations with our powerful neighbours and allies so he refrained from settling the disputed area until an agreement was reached. He left it to his heir.

We recognise Roman authority in Dalmatia, Sikelia (Sicilia) and Cisalpine Gaul. We recognise Egyptian authority in Egypt. We recognise Babylonian authority in Mesopotamia, Armenia, Judea, Arabia and Persia. We claim all lands north of Caucasus. We have no disputes with the Gaul.

Current state of affairs: Alliance with Romans, alliance with Babylonians, peace treaty with Gaul, no contact with Spanish, peace treaty with Egyptians, no contact with Carthaginians.

The map of the Greek world.

[Ljube]

It was during the reign of one of tyrants of Athens – Agamemnon. A group of Greek citizens boarded a ship in the port and sailed under the cover of the darkness to avoid the prosecution. They brought their families with them, because they knew a cruel man Agamemnon was would surely turn against them when he discovers his opponents escaped his vengeance.

They set their sails for the unexplored land of the east. They knew Agamemnon’s kingdom reached out to the borders with Armenia and Judea in the East, but they hoped they could find land in between two great kingdoms – Greece and Babylon – where they could settle and live peacefully. After many hardships, unforgiving tempest off the shores of Karia (Caria) that nearly destroyed their vessel and ruined the most of their provisions, the stop in the port Paphos on the island of Kypros where the hostile Egyptian savages nearly turned them to slaves, the exhausted Greek settlers finally reached their destination – the shores of Syria. There they discovered fertile land by the see and settled immediately. They named their settlement Herakleia after the name of their leader Herakles (Heracles) – the strongest man on Earth.

Little did they know about the agreement between Agamemnon and the Babylonian King Grottencrotch. To punish the rebels, Agamemnon arranged a border between Babylon and Greece which excluded Herakleia and urged Grottencrotch to establish his rule on the entire territory of Babylon. The King of Babylon assembled a great army numbering 50000 men, a feat worthy of Gods, and attacked the Greek settlement. Not even the superhuman strength of Herakles was enough – the Greek defenders were overwhelmed and Herakles himself perished.

Nevertheless, the deal between Agamemnon and Grottencrotch included 10000 slaves which were supposed to be given to Agamemnon for his renouncement of Herakleia, but deceitful Grottencrotch never honoured that part of the agreement. Maybe that’s why the relations between Greece and Babylon haven’t been so good lately even though an alliance is still in effect.


The map of the eastern part of the Greek world.

[Dylan Baker]

On the Greek blunder....

An excerpt from Grottencrotch's 'State of the Republic Address:'

"...the very sorts of things that school vouchers were designed to combat. And all this, after she was appointed head of the committee on Fecal Waste and Purple Things."

"And a message to the great Greek leader: Your 10000 slaves are in the mail!"

[deity]

Originally posted by Zylka
~De Espana, 575ad~

Oh, correct. There's also apparently a Carthaginian dispute regarding a sort of contract they had made up and signed on their own to deal with.. my apologies if this little itch on the back holds my arrival up a few days. I'm really quite good at scrathing them in general, but only when I can reach - you know?

Hannibal shook his head. His diplomacy had failed. Spain had dismissed Carthage.

He sought sanctuary in the great Temple and reached out to his deity. The message was clear. Without solid world support in reclaiming NW Africa the Carthaginians could not become the warmongers of the world. It was a time to bend, to seek friendship and trade.

His people were not happy upon hearing this news and he quickly became known as Hannibull.

[Ljube]

The Colossus of Athens

Even though Greece seems one nation to the outside observers, this is not the actual state. Cities in Greece have high degree of independence in most of the matters. In fact, Greece could easily be called a nation of city states.

Each of Greek cities has different society structure, unique among the others, different government ranging from the despotic tyranny to the democracy and different God protector. Athens, the capital of Greek alliance, celebrates Athena, daughter of the supreme God Zeus. But since Athens became a trade centre of the Greek world, many newcomers arrived in Athens and settled there. New shops were opened and merchants from all over the Greek world moved to Athens and brought their beliefs with them. Sun God Helios was considered a protector of merchants and the city started to celebrate Helios together with Athena. Intense trade soon brought prosperity to Athens and the citizens felt gratitude to their new protector Helios. They decided to build a monument of their God that would stand for all times and show the grandeur of their prosperous city. The citizens of nearby Knossos who also worshiped Helios offered their help and together these two cities constructed a bronze statue at the entrance to the port of Athens.

They named the statue Colossus

After this wonder of the world was completed, trade revenues in Athens increased twofold.

[atawa]

What the ****?

Originally posted by Frank Johnson


I would not be so eager to dismiss the concerns of your neighbors. Our villages and towns are poised to grow tremondously, and they are already stacked in and located in a manner to make maximum use of the terrain, rather than the methods employed by more gifted nations.

Our people know of the great frotnier, and many say, we need to demand access to the Danube, to travel to the frontier, and if that is denied to us, the public will become quite riled.

As I explained in earlyer posts the Gauls are welcome to send a band of settlers across their lands in search of new homes.

If the Gauls want to threaten the Romans or their lifestyle, please go ahead but dont expect to have a civ left once the dust settles........

[deity]

This is the save I made at end of Session One

ABC 575

[atawa]

Originally posted by ljcvetko
It is unknown where the Greek tribes come from. Some of us think our ancestors came from the northern plains and valleys of Dacia, pushed away from there by the ice age and increasingly colder climate. The others claim we came from Asia Minor because the people there speak similar language. It doesn’t really matter now. We know we didn’t originate here. We know we conquered the local people at some point in the past. And we know our first settlements were founded at the southern tip of a peninsula known as the Balkans.

We call this country Greece and from there Greek people spread all over the world. We settled Epeiros (Epirus), Illyria, Makedonia (Macedonia), the most of Thrake (Thracia), Mvoia (Moesia), Byzantion (Byzatium) and southern parts of Pannonia. We also settled entire Asia Minor, nowadays called New Greece. We unfortunately failed to settle Kypros (Cyprus), but we maintain our claim on the island and we shall endeavour to acquire it when the opportunity presents itself.

In addition to already settled land, we lay claim to the following areas: the rest of Thrake (Thracia), Dacia, Pannonia, Krim (Crimea), Taras (Tarentum), Kypros (Cyprus) and Krete (Crete). We would also be willing to arrange a division of Dacia with the Romans and possibly include Pannonia in the deal. No such agreement exists, though noble Romans made two suggestions on various lines of separation of spheres of influence, both of which our wise king Alexandros (Alexander) the Great deemed unfair towards Greece and declined to either accept or reject. But he didn’t want to endanger friendly relations with our powerful neighbours and allies so he refrained from settling the disputed area until an agreement was reached. He left it to his heir.

We recognise Roman authority in Dalmatia, Sikelia (Sicilia) and Cisalpine Gaul. We recognise Egyptian authority in Egypt. We recognise Babylonian authority in Mesopotamia, Armenia, Judea, Arabia and Persia. We claim all lands north of Caucasus. We have no disputes with the Gaul.

Current state of affairs: Alliance with Romans, alliance with Babylonians, peace treaty with Gaul, no contact with Spanish, peace treaty with Egyptians, no contact with Carthaginians.

The map of the Greek world.

We are plaesed to anounce we have reaced an agreement with the new Greek leader over land rights in Panonia and Dacia.

May we work together and prosper untill the end of days

[Zylka]

Cesar Pelli is a Roman born urban designer who had moved to Spain with his parents in 560AD. He quickly grew into his destined proffession as a child prodigy, and at the ripe age of 22 now co-owns the nation's premiere firm with architect to the General, Antoni Gaudi



Barcelona House, center of state & private settlement planning/design in Spain

Past the end of the workday - a Mr. Pelli sits spent and tapping a table front window to aid thought; with only his propping arms thrown about the accompanying desk more chaotically than the parchments and scrolls of current work. His partner Antoni walks in with an adveritised sigh of relief

Antoni: Late afternoon, Cesar. Hope you're not having the degree of troubles I just finished over the Cruz family estate.

Cesar softly smiles and slights a quick shake of the head without turning

Cesar: Ahhh friend, if only you knew the stresses of strategic work for the crown. it's quite a lot more demanding than sketching the ornate columns of a spoiled belle's stables, in short.

Mr Gaudi laughs and pours his stressed partner a glass of Ravenna Red

Antoni: Drink, and be not so wound. You damn well know I've shared like frustrations over having my work forced into phallic mediocrity by that third testicle Zylka

Cesar: Hmm, best those words find death before audience, lest your scholar's register be withdrawn and replaced with "ghetto vermin patrol". Anyway, here –

Cesar pulls out the largest of water colored drawings in response to Antoni’s peaking

Cesar: This is the base map upon which I introduce a major crown consul the topic of land claim settlement with the Carthaginians in 3 days. Just look at it (Cesar thrusts the map at his partner like an unwanted child)

Antoni: Oh my… I’m sure those little men will be screaming for your head, on this. But… come now, you as well as I know how unfairly the symbiotic proportions of this un-telling illustration translate to the average man, even one “high up” in government. Near all of your monolith depicted “Carthage” is worth less than an eggshell, in comparison to the rest of the hospitable world!

Cesar: Yes, yes – I’m not playing a color game with you, of all. Take a look at the line I’ve drafted across the northern shelf of the continent.

Antoni: Just under Carthage city itself, with thew 3 nodes near by?

Cesar: Exactly. In short – that is the dividing spot on which I explain to the consul that everything north of, average equal to if not greater settlement value than in rolling Spain herself…

Antoni: Ahhh - and in quick sight, I’d say that area alone totals… 1/3 a greater mass than our nation?

Cesar: Near that, but alas explaining that our complete legal and tiny settlement on the far western sector still leaves their proportional control in excess does near nothing, apparently. More so important in the regarding crown’s eyes seems to be; believe it or not – that mass of harsh and arid land below.

Antoni: And why exactly would that be.

Cesar: Those nodes below you before mentioned, are each MINIMAL representation of a possible settlement that will reach what Spain classifies as a 6th stage city; around 200, 000 in size. This is without irrigation applied, and only showing of the cities which are assured to reach such size. With near 20 indicated, that’s a minimal population of 4 million immediately available in the region.

Antoni: Unbelievable.. near 3 times that of current Spain herself. So.. what direction is your estimation of sought conlcusion?

Cesar: Well, word is they’re looking to settle with Carthage on fair terms – but as for the rest of the region… I think something of an internationally controlled zone is desired, with a particular hand wanted from Rome and Gaul.

Cesar stares out the window and south across the Mediterranean for a moment before continuing

What Carthage thinks of such.. I can not yet hope to report

[OzzyKP]

"Sir, the Spanish have built a military fort on the top of Mount Olympus."
"This is an outrage! The Spanish are liars, theives and barbarians! That is the most holy place in all of Greece, how dare they occupy it."
"What shall we do, sir? They are well entrenched on that mountain. I am unsure. But one thing I do know is this is an act of war. Alert the world, Greece and Spain are now at war. Nothing short of total annhiliation of their vile desecration of Mount Olympus will stop this."

[OzzyKP]

The following charts are made available for the world to see the hostile act undertaken by the vile Spanish.

[Rasputin]

is there a second session save game missing ozzy ?? i didnt see that spanish development in the save that deity posted here...

[OzzyKP]

We are still playing the second session. He just did that a few turns ago. The bastard.

[Zylka]

Tsk tsk

How dareth these foreigners invade our sacred thread with tongue speak out of this (character) world?!