O Sole Mio Succession Game

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Thought I'd forgotten this, hadn't ya?

As promised, 500 years of mismanagement.

STYOM tires of waiting for the recall vote, and begins his rule.

Monarchy in twenty-six turns??? Who's been tipping huts indiscriminately?

Oh, right, all of you

975: We meet the Japanese, and decline to swap Currency for MM. Since their alternate choice was Code of Laws, I figured they didn't have Monarchy.
After reloading AT twice, hut yields Horseback Riding
925: Rushbuy Colossus for 152 g... just to get the science rate up, hopefully.
900: Colossus; start Marketplace. Science rate now 18 turns/tech.
875: Deliberately get Horsie sent off by Japanese, so that we can explore with it due N of O Sole.
825: English start HG.
800: Rushbuy Marketplace.
775: Marketplace; start Caravan (Satsuma=beads demander)
Stupidly spent time irrigating with NON Settler; forgot that Irri Grass yields food -1 in Despo Oh well, perhaps that'll help later.
750: Buy 2 shields towards Caravan (we produce 8/turn)
725: Hut - barb Horseman at 75,83 - dispatched by our Horse. No vet status.
700: Another Archer gets sent home.
Japanese start Lighthouse.
650: Monarchy>Mysticism (Writing not offered)
REVOLUTION
625: We build a Beads Caravan (demanded by Kyoto) and form a Monarchy, adjust science to 70%
Moved workers off roaded Irri grass and onto fish. Net effect is to lose 1 shield of production and gain 1 beaker. The beaker, we need, and for now, the 9 shields vs 8 don't provide any advantage (at 9 shields, we can't buy 5 shields to get a 'van in 5 turns... not any way I can see, anyway... so 8 shields gets us a van in 6 turns with 2 shields bought, and we can afford it).
English are nearly done HG.
600: HG in Nottingham.
550: Lighthouse in Osaka.
500: King STYOM retires to a chorus of catcalls.

[Cyrion]

So now it's time for my first Succession turn ever! And just in time before I leave for a 2 weeks trip!

I will do it between tonight or, at worst, Friday!

[Scouse Gits]

Well it was like this, guv ...
This guy walks up to me an' sez, "I represent the great american people, bow and grovel serf!"
an' I thinks, in some 4,500 years, sirrah, you are the serf - your country doesn't even exist for another 4,600 years - so I sez, "Get thee gone thou foul anachronism!"
but he didn't want to go - so I helped him like!
'onest, guv, tweren't my fault!!

uRAR

[Cyrion]

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
Well it was like this, guv ...
This guy walks up to me an' sez, "I represent the great american people, bow and grovel serf!"
an' I thinks, in some 4,500 years, sirrah, you are the serf - your country doesn't even exist for another 4,600 years - so I sez, "Get thee gone thou foul anachronism!"
but he didn't want to go - so I helped him like!
'onest, guv, tweren't my fault!!

uRAR

I'm not worried about this at all - after all, we're still Spotless

[Cyrion]

Sorry guys, RL has been intruding and there was just no way I could squeeze my turns in before I left: I'll be away from my comp for 2 weeks, so let the next in line play the turns, I'll just take my place for the next round!

[duke o' york]

I've got tomorrow off work and so could squeeze in ten turns if anyone wants me to.
I know that it's not really succession if I don't play any more turns, but I promise not to give away Fusion Power and to play entirely sober.
If whoever would be next wants to play then fine, but if not then someone give me the say-so. I can play nay stalled game if required, but please tell me before 5 today!

[DaveV]

I seem to be next in line. I have the save and will do whatever it is I do when I can't build more cities...

[DaveV]

The Japanese are shaping up to be very unpleasant neighbors. Here's hoping they'll let us deliver a few more caravans...

500: change tax sliders to 0.3.7 to get some love and 5 more trade arrows.
475: gold caravan built. WLTKD, change to 1.2.7.
450: Japanese units discovered to the south. Our beads caravan is moving in the wrong direction?
400: Russians start the Pyramids.
350: tip hut at (32,36) - NONE Legion.
325: gems caravan built. Livy reports: Japanese are wealthiest, we are 7th .
300: tax sliders to 0.3.7 for growth to size 5. Mysticism discovered, Writing next.
275: Reshuffle workers to get 10 shields. Trade Mysticism to Japan for Map Making. Japanese start Pyramids.
250: Russians have nearly completed the Pyramids.
225: Moscow builds Pyramids, Japanese abandon same.
200: Japanese demand Monarchy, declare war when I refuse.
125: Cease fire & peace with Japanese.
100: hides caravan. Japanese start Oracle.
50: Gold to Kyoto: 62 gold.
25: Writing discovered, Pottery next.

Edit: unsought advice to my successor - don't talk to the Japanese unless you want another war. They are Supreme to our Weak, and have at least one catapult. I gave them a bit of a bloody nose during my war with them, but I don't think we can take them on right now (and those two caravans are awfully close to delivery).

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by DaveV

500: change tax sliders to 0.3.7 to get some love and 5 more trade arrows.

Argh, I had meant to do that and forgot

[Elephant]

Re: Thought I'd forgotten this, hadn't ya?

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man

Monarchy in twenty-six turns??? Who's been tipping huts indiscriminately?

Oh, right, all of you

Hear, hear!

975: After reloading AT twice, hut yields Horseback Riding

Hypocrite...

Seemed kind of strange, getting Trade before Monarchy! Guess no one was paying attention when Old n Slow said:
"3250 -- Hut (22/74) = WC -- now a hold on hut popping, as this becomes the "off tech"

Or is indiscriminate hut-popping a secondary doctrine underneath the RAR School of OCC Strategy?

Lets see:
Cer/War(h)/Alp/Bro(h)/Cur(h)/CoL/Tra(h)/Hor(h)/MON/Mys/Map(t)/Wri/Pot

net result: Monarchy in 625BC

sigh...

[Elephant]

Originally posted by DaveV

200: Japanese demand Monarchy, declare war when I refuse.
125: Cease fire & peace with Japanese.

If the Japs are your home-continent trade partners, why blow a chance to help them out, improve their attitude, and pave the way for better caravan delivery results and a future alliance?

Edit: unsought advice to my successor - don't talk to the Japanese unless you want another war. They are Supreme to our Weak, and have at least one catapult. I gave them a bit of a bloody nose during my war with them, but I don't think we can take them on right now (and those two caravans are awfully close to delivery).

Any caravan delivery gives them a chance to initiate a talk. If you want those massive on-continent AI trade routes , you need to start buttering them up soon...

End of OCC-Purist diatribe

[DaveV]

Originally posted by Elephant
If the Japs are your home-continent trade partners, why blow a chance to help them out, improve their attitude, and pave the way for better caravan delivery results and a future alliance?

Because we're going to be at war with them in a couple thousand years. I don't think submitting to blackmail will make them less of a threat.

Originally posted by Elephant
Any caravan delivery gives them a chance to initiate a talk. If you want those massive on-continent AI trade routes , you need to start buttering them up soon...
End of OCC-Purist diatribe

Buttering them up = giving away the farm? A few turns later, they're back to hostile and better able to push us around...

[Elephant]

Originally posted by DaveV

Because we're going to be at war with them in a couple thousand years. I don't think submitting to blackmail will make them less of a threat.


Buttering them up = giving away the farm? A few turns later, they're back to hostile and better able to push us around...

Ah - I had forgotten you were playing MGE...

Still, since you are playing OCC till 1750, butter them up for now to get an alliance, build the big trade routes, then backstab them on your "critical path" RR as soon as the gloves come off...

[Elephant]

Originally posted by DaveV
I seem to be next in line. I have the save and will do whatever it is I do when I can't build more cities...

Whoever let this ICSer into an OCC game?

BTW, guys, I'm "just having fun" per Bloody Monk's enjoinder. If you think I'm , say the word and I'll button up.

I'm assuming "spirited commentary" is encouraged from the non-playing Peanut Gallery.