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  • snoopy: Y-wrapping enables the map generator to create continents that wrap around from south to north. unfortunately the climate/tiles overlay still considers everything beyond 70° (or similar) latitude to be mainly tundra and ice.

    so on normal maps you will find tundra along the edges of the continents while on Y-rapped maps you can have a tundra-ice-tundra belt going through the whole continent.... as you said: lots of cold things

    from what i can currently see, there's a lot outside my city borders, but it's still too early to say if that's just local or everywhere...
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    • Are all the houses in your city igloos?
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      • sigh ok if you all decide as a group that we restart I will do so but lets play a few turns of this before we make that decison k? I trust everyone to use the self policing rule, just write down in a noteboard file the techs you researched. But if we decide as a group that we should turn it off completly than I will do so. Hate to restart though as it does take thirty minutes to an hour to set things up. IF we decide to restart EVERYONE open up pitboss and look at the settings and tell me what you want.
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        • My starting positon is pretty choice (never had so many different food sorces in my starting cross), lots of forest for early chopping.

          My partner (sabrewolf) looks sort of screwed however.

          I am against restarts for baddly placed civs (unless it is just rediculous). Bottom line is that with this many players someone is always going to get a semi tundra start (unless you turn up the heat, in which case someone will get a desert start, so it is sort of moot to do so).

          In short, I vote for the following...

          We restart, with tech trading off. Normal speed. If TT off creates too much of an uproar, then I would STRONGLY suggest "Trade only Self Researched Techs Once". Keeping track of it is simply a matter of writing down what you developed, and who you traded it to.

          I don't know, I tend to like to develop tech based on what I need, not what others may need, which is what FFA TT boils down to.

          Dacole, you may want to experiment with the map settings by generating games in single with same number of players and 2 to a team. Open worldbuilder and look at the starts (you will have to make a note of whos on what team).

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          • I thought this setup died?
            I any case, with this many participants I can no longer play. The map is too big for my computer.
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            • sigh ok well then geomodder is gone so we are going to have to restart anyway. Ok then. Does anyone else want to leave which settings do you want? Open up the islands start and look at the settings do you want more than 1 large island per player? Normal speed fine what about tech trading? Let me know. I work a good bit tommorow but I will try to get it set up soon I will wait to here from EVERYONE however before I set something up.
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              • When you say island map, I am assuming you are refering to the one where everyone starts out on their own island?

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                • OK,

                  Everyone who is still going to play this game will post "I'm in!"

                  This way we know who are paying attention and are active anough to play.
                  Maybe we should give like 3 days for this?
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                  • I'll start:

                    I'm in!
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                    • I'm in.

                      Btw, the game seems not to be on line...
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                      • Originally posted by Aro

                        Btw, the game seems not to be on line...
                        Originally posted by dacole
                        sigh ok well then geomodder is gone so we are going to have to restart anyway.
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                        • OK, I hadn't a chance to try the game, but of course, I'm in!

                          Thanks Dacole for setting it up!

                          To make things easier, I would say that we put tech trading on "off". If we are two working on the same tech, it should be quick enough, no?

                          For the other set ups, I don't know the good parameters for a PTBS game, so I let you choose. Just consider I'm OK for any choice.

                          Sorry Geomodder, it seems that there was no other choice than taking a huge map...
                          Now we have a teammate alone... Does anyone know if Bigfree is still playing with us? If not, we could merge the two teams and Snoopy and Mrboo would play together...

                          And for the password, just put ephack for me.

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                          • Originally posted by Ephack
                            Does anyone know if Bigfree is still playing with us?
                            Yup. He just respond to my pm. He's at work, and will play his turn later (when at home, I assume)
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                            • ok, then we need a new player. If you know somebody...

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                              • Is the game up or not now?

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