Destiny of Empires [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread]

[Robert]

I've server sided paused the game.
The German player tried to explain why he thinks that game mechanics were abused, but I unfortunately didn't understand him. I think it had something to do with defence pacts and automatic war declarations. He says that units of both Germany and Turkey are on the same tile right now as a result of these game problems.

Let's just see how we can solve this.

[Arabia2 (doe)]

I think when a single Rambo destroys 30-40 units that is abuse of game mechanics. Maybe it's ok in a Hollywood movie, but not realistic. It's an abuse even if it's perfectly legal. I don't blame you for doing it, I can blame civ that it allows it, but I don't do that either because civ4 is still the best strategy game I played.

[Ottoman Empire (DoE)]

Nothing I did can be considered " abuse of game mechanics." I made a perfectly legal move, by any standard you can name.

[Arabia2 (doe)]

Ottomans are the master of abusing game mechanics, a costly lesson for the Axis. (I don't know what happened exactly, My guess is that Freedom city did not even had a one tile culture border around it thats why this could had happened.)
Also a costly lesson for some players how diplogames are not working too well, costly in a way that it may cost the game itself. I wanted to keep up the morale and would had liked to play on, but with half of the players are missing or don't care I think it is best if I say goodbye too..
I'm very sorry as the game was not even yet decided, but if so many players can't have any fun from it then how can we continue?

[Russia (DoE)]

They are not all of the Axis destroyers, but still - almost the half of them.

[Ottoman Empire (DoE)]

To get everyone up to speed. What is going on, is Turkey just sank all of Axis Destroyers. Neandor first tried to argue that Turkey Doublemoved, but then realized that the argument had no merit, so now Neandor is quitting in despair.

For the record, I DID NOT doublemove anyone although I was accused of doing so. 2 turns ago, I was not able to finish my turn (rushing off to work) so I had to log in at the end of the turn (with about 30 mins left) and finish my turn. No one but me was logged in at the time. (Something I did consider, was that could have been considered a Doublemove against the Aztecs, IF the Aztecs had logged in at all and then I logged in after them. However, the Aztecs did not even log in that turn and have not done so in a while, so that's a non-issue).

Since I was already logged in with such small time left on the clock, I just stayed logged in and let the turn roll, so I was already logged in first when last turn began. Then Axis players began logging in and out, and the game went Out of Sync. Then I finished my turn and logged out, after which, Neandor and Vikings logged in and finished their turns.

So then, this turn, I logged in First and sank the Viking fleet [IC] I was really just liberating Freedom City from Vikings, but the fleet got sunk as a side effect[/IC]. However, Neandor logged in right after me, saw that I had sunk the fleet, and started complaining that I had DMed the Vikings, which was obviously false, then he began blaming the OOS errors which were also irrelevant, because I was already logged in before all of them. When I explained this to him, he went into full Tilt (Poker term ) despair, and Quit.

So thats where we are now. I think the game is paused for a ruling or Cold Turkey or Whatever.

Also, if Neandor is quitting outright, and his allies are similarly in despair, then maybe we should just call the game for Russia and move on to a new one. I am wanting to play on, but if everyone is quitting then hey, whatevers

[Russia (DoE)]

So, it seems we are missing a player for a nation at war, so I took a save from the game and I propose the host to pause it till a new player is found. I was unable to pause it myself, as I lost connectivity.

[Russia (DoE)]

Farewell, personally I will miss you.

But dont lie to yourself - those who can ruin the game are those who quit when losing or just when the things are not going their way.

We played ABSOLUTELY right - no rule we broke and yet you threaten to quit over the loss of 15 units. Those were not even YOUR units. Then you go and talk about alliances and abusing game mechanics...

Learn the game or learn to lose. Shame on you for being such a decent player till now and now ragequitting.

[Germany (DoE)]

I am making a protest about this game and am resigning.

I am incredulous at the poor form, lack of sportsmanship and down right (well I want say it) ... and such an unfun game for me because of manipulation of the board (which is not Diplomacy).

I will not be logging in to the threads any more. Pls do not do a cold turkey time, I will NEVER come back.

I'm amazed I have held patience this long.

[Vikings (DoE)]

The OOS errors went away and everything seems fine again.

[Vikings (DoE)]

Game seems to be having some troubles tonight. I keep getting error messages upon attempting to log in. I'll keep trying.

[America (DoE)]

It worked!

[Robert]

What the heck, I've rebooted it right away.

[Robert]

I'll reboot the server later today. That may fix it.

[America (DoE)]

Since the last restart, when I try to login, the data transfer stalls frequently; yesterday it worked eventually, but today it said 'we lost our connection to the host'. Anybody else experiencing this problem?