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    • Yahuar Huacac,

      May I remind you about the fact that Persia came to Inca's aid!
      Our army was moving to you to protect your citizen, when this army was stabbed in the back.

      If you would not have started your war of wrath in the first place, there would not have been a Persian-Russian war.
      Persia has been betrayed because they wanted to help you, and this is what you write in return?

      You claim that we are heathens, but let me tell you one thing, a True Hastogianist would NEVER try to hurt a nation that's not causing obstacles! A True Hastogianist will always be friendly towards nations that are not a threat.

      You are worse! You speak evil words about people that do you no harm, no.... you speak about evil acts against people who came to your aid!

      Persia will not accept armies or weapons from anybody. And even while we are dealing with Russia, we are building up new lands for Russia.
      Russia has become an obstacle for Persia. We do not even destroy it, we move it.
      Dare not to speak evil about Russia. If you or anyone turns against a Hastogianistic nation, we will help them.
      If you attack Russia, we will declare peace upon them and defend them.

      Slowly the world starts to see that not Hastogianism is evil.
      We are selfish, yes we are! That's our first take, take care of ourselves, if needed at the costs of others.
      You are worse. You kill others without getting even benefits from doing so.

      May Hastog spit on you!
      I will not forget this! Nor do I fear you.

      Guru Fed'Az


      Attached: private letter from Cupac Yupanqui to Guru Fed'Az

      Guru Fed'Az,

      You offer a gallant and noble action at a time when it is most needed.

      I must offer words of caution to you, and to all the rest.

      If you do this thing it will take more than the will of Hastog to stop Byzantine intervention. If Russia acts then no words will stop Byzantium. If Byzantium acts then Russia will have to act. The result will be the same. Persia might well find itself in the bizarre situation of having India as an ally while still thinking of her as the ultimate enemy.

      I say these things not as discouragement for without aid we can only fight England in an ever more costly war of attrition but simply to make all aware of just what could happen.

      Cupac Yupanqui
      Force is always beside the point when subtlety will serve
      <a href = "http://apolyton.net/forums/showpost.php?p=5759340&postcount=49">Darius order to kill Oroetes</a></p>

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      • Guru Fed'Az,

        The letter is genuine. Read it and realize that for once Cupac Yupanqui had a lucid moment. Despite your offer of help caution was advised as to the probable consequences.

        Taoism is not selfish or self seeking and differs in all manners of ways from Hastogs teachings. Four tiny nations seeking to curb a superpower was not selfish but selfless. Persian aid was welcome indeed but it was only a means for you of gaining an advantage over a rival superpower without concern for the rest.

        Peru seeks not to aid either side to win your war but simply make it last until the end of time. Dead Persian or dead Russian they are the same. The world is a safer place without Hastog and his evils that corrupt the good and strengthen the bad.

        Yahuar Huacac
        Suwasqa wasi hina simiyoq

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        • **Notice**

          Due to the escalating war along the southern Britannian boarders, until further notice no military units from any nation other then Russia will be allowed to travel through Britannia without prior notice of intent. And nations found violating this notice will be escorted out of Brtiannia and our boarder treaties will be closed off to that nation.
          The civ formerly known as The Holy Empire of Britannia/dutch

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          • Korea was unaware of any escalating war. It appears from all sources that the war is basically over. The Persians have won.

            Can you please elaborate as to what the escalation is.

            We are sending observors to look at parts of the world we havent seen, but will take not to avoid your territory whenever possible.

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            • The New World Equality Pact

              My fellow rulers of this world. Here in Byzantium we have long sought to bring benefit to the smaller civilizations of this world. For God makes the sun shine equally on the strong as well as the weak; we too should seek the equal benefit for all.

              In recent years it has been difficult to see how to benefit others, for the world has been racked by war, and the land filled with ever increasing villages, cities and mines.

              But now, God has give us the opportunity to built up the weak. The new lands that God has given us in the shinning ocean give ammple opportunity for land for all, in partiuclar new lands for those who boundaries in the old world are squeezed.

              But how? Will not the strong simply use their technological prowess to seize all the good land before the weak even find teh new world?

              Yes - that will happen - unless - my fellow leaders - we choose to act.

              I propose that the five most advanced nations:

              King Kaliph of India
              wallace of England
              Theodosius of Byzantium
              Guru Fed'az of Persia
              and the Lords of Korea

              each agree to give a carval and a galleon to the weakest nations. This is the only way to ensure that the new world is not seized and possessed by the already strong.

              A free gift - now is the moment for giving - for those nations to use as they wish. This is not an arm of self-interested foreign policy, but the only way of ensuring taht all nations - as free nations - benefit from the new world.

              What do you say, my fellow rulers?
              Βασιλεύς Βασιλέων Βασιλεύων Βασιλευόντων

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              • **Notice**

                Due to the escalating war along the southern Britannian boarders, until further notice no military units from any nation other then Russia will be allowed to travel through Britannia without prior notice of intent. And nations found violating this notice will be escorted out of Brtiannia and our boarder treaties will be closed off to that nation.
                The civ formerly known as The Holy Empire of Britannia/dutch

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                • Korea was unaware of any escalating war. It appears from all sources that the war is basically over. The Persians have won.
                  Lords of Korea. You should not believe the Persian propoganda. Remember currently the only outcome on the ground from this war is that the Russians hold one of the most important Persian cities, and no Persian army has managed to enter Russian land. Things are changing, but to declare it over and a Persian victory is greatly premature.
                  Βασιλεύς Βασιλέων Βασιλεύων Βασιλευόντων

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                  • Originally posted by Korea (DoC) View Post
                    Korea was unaware of any escalating war. It appears from all sources that the war is basically over. The Persians have won.

                    Can you please elaborate as to what the escalation is.

                    We are sending observors to look at parts of the world we havent seen, but will take not to avoid your territory whenever possible.
                    Please direct all questions to you respective Britannian embassies.
                    The civ formerly known as The Holy Empire of Britannia/dutch

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                    • Theodosius,

                      Persia has already shared the knowledge of Astronomy at no costs with the Britannians and upgraded one of the Ottoman ships at no cost for the Ottomans into a Galleon.

                      Fed'Az
                      Force is always beside the point when subtlety will serve
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                      • Persian armies re-capture Hastogsburg



                        Persia thanks Russia for completing both a castle and a wall in the city.
                        Force is always beside the point when subtlety will serve
                        <a href = "http://apolyton.net/forums/showpost.php?p=5759340&postcount=49">Darius order to kill Oroetes</a></p>

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                        • Korean naval advisors inform us that a caravel is not very useful..

                          We suggest that maps of the new worlds be made availabvle immediately as we alreadt have done and set asid areas for all.

                          The Smaller nations should build a settler and then gift this settler to one of hte seafaring antions who will transport it to the respective new world. Then build a city and gift it back to the nation.

                          Simply solved.

                          We propose the following.

                          there appears to be three new continetns
                          1. New Russia, currnely being settled by PErsia for Russia.
                          This should be opened to all of the Western nations which incoude.
                          Persia, Russia, Ottomans, Byzantine and Britania

                          2. New england, curentl being settle by England
                          This should be open to all the South Western Group of nations
                          Rome, England, Greece and Arabia, Incans

                          3. South Korea curenlty sttled by Korea.
                          Open to India , Mali, natives, Egyptians and koreans

                          What do the world think....

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                          • Leaders of Russia,

                            Hastogsburg has been liberated by the Persian army.
                            Your soldiers were brave, but they all died.
                            I have negotiated with Dominika in the past, I don't know her fate. Her body has not been found yet but we do not believe that she was able to escape the city either. If we find her body, we will hand it over to you with proper respect.

                            If she escaped to free Russian lands, then let her come to Hastogsburg so that we can discuss terms of peace. Whomever comes to Hastogsburg, we will let him or her pass. You can also come to gather the bodies of your soldiers.

                            Now Russia has been defeated the initial Russian threat has been countered.
                            But the destruction of Persian lands and buildings in Hastogsburg and the mass murdering of tens of thousands of people in Hastogsburg has not been compensated.

                            Yet there is still the Russian threat.
                            For long we believed that we could be friends with you, like we are with the Britannians and the Ottomans.
                            We were willing to support you and help you, but you betrayed us.

                            Now we do not believe in a friendly Russian neighbour anymore.
                            Therefore you remain an obstacle for us.

                            Persia has defeated Russia in war twice.
                            There will not be a third one.
                            Therefore we will continue to move your citizen to New Russia. With or Without you cooperation.

                            Your cooperation will result in a better and stronger New Russia.
                            These are my terms for peace:

                            Phase 1:
                            YOU
                            - Hand over your colonies to Britannia immediately
                            - Hand over Sevestapool to Ottomania immediately
                            - Keep 1 unit of soldiers in your remaining cities, give the rest to the Ottomans. They will transfer these to Sardis
                            - Sign a cease fire

                            WE
                            - will transport your armies to New Russia
                            - will defend your cities if you're under attack
                            - sign a cease fire

                            Phase 2:
                            YOU
                            - Start building settlers or armies to be transported to New Russia. These will be moved to Tarsis and handed to Persia

                            WE
                            - continue to build settlers and armies to be transfered to New Russia

                            Phase 3:
                            YOU
                            - will hand over your remaining cities to Persia
                            - remove all armies from Moscow

                            WE
                            - will hand over all New Russian cities to you
                            - Take Moscow

                            Phase 4:
                            YOU
                            - Will be a vassal of Persia for as long as you want to

                            WE
                            As long as you remain a vassal of Persia:
                            - Will give you all our surplus resources
                            - Will give you our remaining tech vouchers (you will receive 2(?) free techs from us at your request, whenever)
                            - Will vow to defend your lands
                            - Will give you any tech you can pay for with a voucher yourself
                            - Share all our maps with you

                            If you refuse to accept these terms or if you are not able to come with better terms, then we will continue this war and move you to New Russia with force.
                            Persia has not started to slave or draft yet. Apart from the murderings and destructions at Hastogsburg and the Persian countryside, no harm has been done yet to the Persian economy. Make no mistake, if needed we will do anything to remove you from Hascon.

                            Answer us quickly.

                            Guru Fed'Az of Persia - The Beast


                            *ooc: I have done some testing, it is not possible to make a colony and then let this colony be taken over by a human. It is possible to create a colony, but it'll remain AI till the end of the game.
                            Therefore I can only give cities and we must organise the defence ourselves. Just FYI.
                            Force is always beside the point when subtlety will serve
                            <a href = "http://apolyton.net/forums/showpost.php?p=5759340&postcount=49">Darius order to kill Oroetes</a></p>

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                            • Korea,

                              You talk a lot of nonsense.
                              Persia is already helping it's friends to settle new lands.
                              While you do the blabla the Ottomans are already sailing with Persian constructed ships to new shores and the Britannians are already constructing new ships with Persian knowledge.

                              Why don't you stop the talking and start helping your friends settling new worlds?
                              You have no rights to talk about these things.
                              You have done nothing so far to aid small civs and yet you're full of it that others should do it.

                              You have nothing to say about New Russia.
                              This is Russian soil.

                              Now be gone.

                              Fed'Az
                              Force is always beside the point when subtlety will serve
                              <a href = "http://apolyton.net/forums/showpost.php?p=5759340&postcount=49">Darius order to kill Oroetes</a></p>

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                              • Not that it matters but Britannia has already built a smal fleet of East Indiamen and have already sent an advance scouting party to locate a suitable island chain we can colonies. Britannia only wishes to build a 4-5 city colony on an island chain. Other then that We do not care about who takes whatever land is out there.
                                The civ formerly known as The Holy Empire of Britannia/dutch

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