The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[St Jon]

Yeah.. we shouldnt have

-but seriously.. this is nothing compared the crying/bithching we would hear a few months later if John would do what He says. First the griefed one rage quits, then everyone will blame someone etc etc.. we saw such things happening already.

Don't worry mzprox; I have never quitted a game, except for personal i.e. OOG reasons, and won't change here. Only times I have left before the end of any game is when I have been knocked out.

[Rasputin]

i have posted because a record must be kept early, we will see how diplomacy plays out later.

for now i wish i had sailing...

[Toni]

Less cities is better for diplo games, this will push for more diplomacy and negotiations. And that is what we want!!

There will be always someone with more cities than you that is the reality.

Yes i like the rest of you have less land, big deal i will try to focus on diplomacy and get along with the civs i find nearby.

Agains Ozzy has placed enough land for all of us, there are suppose to be many islands and some continents out there.

[mzprox]

I can't believe we are already having conversations about bigger and smaller civs already

Yeah.. we shouldnt have

-but seriously.. this is nothing compared the crying/bithching we would hear a few months later if John would do what He says. First the griefed one rage quits, then everyone will blame someone etc etc.. we saw such things happening already.

[The Priest]

Should we open a new thread called "Getting my explanation / excuses in early in case I don't do as brilliantly as I think I should" ?" I can't believe we are already having conversations about bigger and smaller civs already - we are all the same size!

[Rasputin]

That was a positive psot,

I am positve that he got a large area if he can build 8 cities

[Robert]

I have betted with someone else when Rasputin would make his first positive post!

[Rasputin]

you obviously got one of the larger areas...

[India (DoC)]

So what was the score raising trade between Chief Chetan and the Order of Britannia?

we hate huts, huts hate us..


(hmm, 3-5 cities as standard? Most of my future land is jungle and mountains but eventually I may be able to found 6-8 cities (depending on neighbours). I think Ozzy made this map to be tricky. For example why had He raised an unpassable mountain which cuts almost the whole continent half )

[Orb (DoC)]

I got a tech from a hut.

[Byzantium (DoC)]

So what was the score raising trade between Chief Chetan and the Order of Britannia?

[Korea (DoC)]

3 cities seems standard for this game maybe 4-5 if they overlapping

[mzprox]

3 cities sounds bad, can it be a starting city placement bug maybe? ( I dont know if they were placed manualy) Maybe you can use galleys to get somewhere.. I have a crapy starting position but as far as I can see i will have plenty of space for cities.. unless my neighbours start expanding like crazy*. By plenty I dont mean similar to BtP, that was way off... I'm happy if i can have at least 6 normal cities

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*: or they just come with a bunch of axemen.. I havent explore their cities.. one of them might be on a peninsula who just preparing an assault on me

[St Jon]

I was only a very late game sub in BtP but I am in a position, even worse than Russia's was there, where I can actually see my nearest neighbour's capital as well as knowing where another's is. The 3rd I only know the rough geography about but I know that they are far too close for comfort. I am stuck on the end of a peninsula which means that I have no choice but early war which is very wasteful.

In a 'free for all' I would simply slave axemen and wipe out my close neighbour but I cannot do that in Diplo. My only other alternative is to ring his capital and kill each Settler as it emerges to prevent him expanding. My build queue will therefore run X - Axeman - X - Axeman Ad Inf! He will probably understand the risks and try the same tactic against me - especially if he is cramped from the other side as well.

I know the identity of one of my neighbours for certain, sorry but the style of writing is too familiar, and have a pretty good idea of another. One will defeat me if I give him the chance to grow and the other will be a 50-50 but the 3rd I have no idea of. It is fine to say 'build a fleet to discover the promised land' but when you have no chance to build more than 3 cities without massive overlap things become a little more tricky.

Civ obliteration may be illegal but Civ emasculation is not and on a map like this I have no alternative but to pursue that tactic. I am just glad I picked the Civ I did as at least I stand a chance of pulling it off.

[Orb (DoC)]

The game is still in its early stages Just play play and see where it takes you. If you find you want more space then b-line the new world.