The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[Inca (DoC)]

I've just finished my 15th city, enough production to build up a large army now
Who cares about libraries if you can build catapults and macemen

Poor inca can not match such goodness at citys as i only have 5.

[Persia (DoC)]

My armies were still on their way to you when you gave in. There was never any form of hesitation, just a long road before they arrived.

[Orb (DoC)]

you pay the extra support if you hesitate too much.

have you ever seen any Persian hesitate in war?

Yes I have seen first hand

[Persia (DoC)]

you pay the extra support if you hesitate too much.

have you ever seen any Persian hesitate in war?

[Byzantium (DoC)]

You're talking about 'faster', I'm talking about 'more'.
If your ships can transport more armies at the same time then my roads, then you are right.

Fortunately my roads are not blocked by enemy triremes.
But I'm happy to see that you're really enthusiastic about this war!

Keep going my friend. Your words probably keep your vassal the Russian ever hopeful that one day they can win, so they continue to destroy themselves at your bidding while you grow ever stronger. Pillaging your roads through the woods is a far easier task for my horseborn marines than you blockading a whole coast - far from your shipyards and directly outside mine! I've admitted freely that for a turn or two the Russians will have naval superiority, before my main fleet arrives. But what good will it do you?

Go down to the stables my friend, you will find more straw there for you to clutch at. But then of course that might mean getting your hands dirty - when you much prefer to make weaker poorer nation who you oppress to do your dirty work for them!

[India (DoC)]

(not fair b/c Byzantium can't support the stalemate, it's too far from it's home)

Actually Byzantium at home, you pay the extra support if you hesitate too much.

Btw we hope we can join the fun too soon. Right now it's peace and prosperity at home, our wokers started to dig holes recently, for 'biems' they say.. they have no idea what are those, but some heard a high priest saying something like 'I see biems'... what could those be??

[Persia (DoC)]

You're talking about 'faster', I'm talking about 'more'.
If your ships can transport more armies at the same time then my roads, then you are right.

Fortunately my roads are not blocked by enemy triremes.
But I'm happy to see that you're really enthusiastic about this war!

[Byzantium (DoC)]

they cannot hold their position on another continent. Their supply of new armies will fall short and the distance is too far. So in the end Byzantium will lose.

Ah so speaks someone who doesn't understand that age of sail. Continents which Persia and Russia are so obsessed with are only meaningful in the age of railways when land travel comse into its own. Sea transport is often quicker than land in this age. As everyone knows Rhodes is as far from Moscow as from Constantinople and closer to Constantinople than to the Persian capital. If you are putting your trust in your soldiers walking faster than my boats sail, you will be sorely mistaken!

[Persia (DoC)]

I am very happy about you doing well, but I also have an in game agenda
ooc I admire you, ig I of course have to counter you :P

[England (DoC)]

@ Persia

Dude you have some huge balls to come out yelling about India and England.

15 cities give me some slack Persia, the civ with the most land and cities is unhappy about others with much less land and cities doing well. Haha you made my day!!

[Persia (DoC)]

Ok, I lied a tad bit, the 15th city is almost founded. 4 more turns.
It would have been already if I had not given a settler to Russia and 2 workers to you in the very early game.

I have had 1 city building settlers non-stop (my capital).
There was a 2nd city (Persepolis) that has been pushing out armies non stop.
All cities I founded started building a worker. Workers are of key importance here.

You should have covered the lands Russia and Byzantium are argueing about right now much earlier! It's your land. You most probably also have enough space to found 15 cities. I know that the Ottomans have room for at least 11 cities as well.

chop your settlers, found cities asap and work the lands around them so that they grow early.
If all your lands are covered by cities, you don't have to worry about barbarians.
Many players try to block barbarians by building large defense armies. You'd better build a small defense army and focus on building settlers.
Chop all trees around your city to push out those settlers.

[Orb (DoC)]

This is all a huge benefit to India and England.
We all know that in the end Byzantium will be pushed from our continent. I made the mistake to not send a huge army immediately but trust that Russia could pull it off alone.

Now I was forced to go into a war economy and push out a large army.
When it arrives Byzantium will obviously lose, they cannot hold their position on another continent. Their supply of new armies will fall short and the distance is too far. So in the end Byzantium will lose.

But at the cost of Russia,Byzantium and Persia (and all nations behind Byzantium) losing big money and time to build better infrastructures, etc.

But hey, it's fun!
I've just finished my 15th city, enough production to build up a large army now
Who cares about libraries if you can build catapults and macemen

So don't worry, Korea, the stalemate is only temporarily b/c it's not a fair stalemate. (not fair b/c Byzantium can't support the stalemate, it's too far from it's home)

In the meantime England and India grow larger and stronger.

Wow where do you come up with the time and space to build 15 cities?

[Orb (DoC)]

damn you people are experts.. What is UU mean...

why is it a stalemate... has russia actualy attacked yet ? except the catapults.

UU is unique unit. It i a stalemate because neither of them can find a way to take advantage over the other. And as for right now Russia has not gone on the offensive probably because he is smart enough to know that he would not win. But the longer Russia waits to attack the closer Byzantines get to guilds.

[Persia (DoC)]

This is all a huge benefit to India and England.
We all know that in the end Byzantium will be pushed from our continent. I made the mistake to not send a huge army immediately but trust that Russia could pull it off alone.

Now I was forced to go into a war economy and push out a large army.
When it arrives Byzantium will obviously lose, they cannot hold their position on another continent. Their supply of new armies will fall short and the distance is too far. So in the end Byzantium will lose.

But at the cost of Russia,Byzantium and Persia (and all nations behind Byzantium) losing big money and time to build better infrastructures, etc.

But hey, it's fun!
I've just finished my 15th city, enough production to build up a large army now
Who cares about libraries if you can build catapults and macemen

So don't worry, Korea, the stalemate is only temporarily b/c it's not a fair stalemate. (not fair b/c Byzantium can't support the stalemate, it's too far from it's home)

In the meantime England and India grow larger and stronger.

[Byzantium (DoC)]

Trying to be honest (not that Theodosius ever spins things of course).

UU - unique unit - Byzantine cataphracts. Stalemate because of the Civ combat system. At the moment (and sure it can change any minute - very much hoping it will soon ) if the Russian main army attacks my main army it will lose, but if mine attacks it, it will also lose. This is because defenders get advantages - both the fortifed bonus and more importantly in mixed arms stacks the defender always defends with the most appropriate defender. But there is lots going on to break that stalemate ...