Beyond the Pit [Pitboss Diplomacy Game] [Story Thread] . PART 4 (November)

[Pitboss Khmer]

Re: Re: 2 days later....

Originally posted by Pitboss Khmer


tiding again great marco.

ganesh congratulate great discovery but do not understand concept of 'claim'.

it a foreign idea to khmer.

it may be much size of new land and map posted will help other nation before blind recognition of potential vast 'claim' you say.

khmer only recognise land used by cities but have historic understanding and negotiating with meduian nighbour on agree borders. so concept of 'claim' maybe different here. khmer style.

great tiding and it truly a great portuguese journey.

Originally posted by Marco
About New Portugal, YES we hold a colony there and our culture is growing with every day. We do not claim unoccupied land, but only the land on which we build cities on. There are no disputes here Gibson; only the simple fact that Portugal has claimed the land where our colony stands, which we have the full right. The unoccupied land is free for all to have. The kingdom of Khmer said ones that possible borders need to be drawn, well except Portugal there are no other settlements on the land we discovered. Currently Portuguese borders are around our colony, maybe when in the future other settle borders can be discussed. But until then Portugal has only to negotiate with the local nomads.

it seem it we agree marco. it must be misunderstand of tongue.

all khmer policy says is recognise only land with city on it but not unsettle land. this all we ever said.

does understand?

also it great news of twins.

no wonder such population in portugal. he. joke khmer style.

[Pitboss Vikings]

Big KEv and his entourage rode down to the location of the Koreans, they made gestures as they approached to show they came in peace.

Big Kev hailed to the Koreans

"Greetings t oour friends the koreans, you have come many many miles and we wish to commune with your leaders.

[Pitboss Korea]

Outside of Oldonia City...

A small Oldonian army approached the Korean camp just outside of the city of Oldonia. It had only been two days since Jumong and Harald entered the city, which was ravaged by Islamist fanatics. Their goal was to spread the eastern religion of Islam into Oldonia, while they had succeded in unseating the non-Islamic King Jeffry, they failed in converting Oldonia to a fully Islamic nation and the resistance led by a man named "Big Kev" was making inroads to stopping the Islamists. Big Kev himself approached the Korean guards.

"Greetings to our friends the Koreans!" the large man began, "You have travelled many miles, and we wish to commune with your leaders."

The guards looked at one another, they were unsure whether or not these men were Islamists, "I'll let three of you in our camp" one of the guards began, "We ask that the others turn over their weapons."

Big Kev was apprehensive, but nodded as the small band of Oldonians placed their arms on the ground, "Is this sufficient Korean?" he asked.

"Very good" the guard says "General Jumong doesn't know what is going on around here, come, I'll bring you to him..."

The Korean camp was a small group of tents surrounding a small field. Every fourth Korean soldier was equipped with a tent to share (officers each had their own tent). The Koreans were practising their martial arts and archery as the Oldonian envoy walked in. General Jumong turned towards the group and shook his head "I told them not to let anyone in!" he said to Pong, his servant, "I don't want to get involved in these Oldonian politics!" he slowly walked towards Big Kev.

"Hail General Jumong!" Kev said, clumsily bowing in an attempt to impress the General, "I am Kevin Oldson, of the Oldonian army."

"Are you one of the men I met in the city or are you, as they would say, an unbeliever?" Jumong said sarcastically.

"I would be the latter General." Kevin replied, "I am going to be quite frank, we Oldonians don't like wasting time with nonsense. These Islamists have ruptured our peace, they have destroyed our cities and deposed our King Jeffry."

"I am aware, I saw it for myself." General Jumong said.

"Well, we ask that your army aide us in stopping these heathens from further destruction. We are a reasonable people, we do not reject Islam, but we will not be bullied into a religion, that is not our way. But our country is fragmented, and our army is in shambles, we need your support." Big Kev explained.

"Well General Oldson, as you can see we are not a fully prepared offensive army. We are travelling to Piercia in order to rendezvous with General Han Gong, to catch a ship home. We are on what you might call a tight schedule."

"I can guarantee you good relations with Oldonia, our future King would be endebted to Korea for your support, and legends of your bravery, and humanity, would spread throughout the land, even to your Emperor." Kevin said.

This intrigued General Jumong, who had aspirations to become the Imperial Commander; "That is quite a statement, espeially coming from a man who requires my help. The men we encountered in Oldonia city seemed well armed, and fervent. They will be formidible opponents," Jumong said scratching his beard "I will do it, but our support must be limited, we have to make it to Piercia in time for the ship. I'll tell you what, if you give Harald Sigurdsson, our guide, an officer's rank in your army we will agree." Jumong knew if he could secure a spot for Harald, he would have a good ally in the Oldonian army.

"So long as he is qualified."

"He was a garrison commander in Gateway, a city that, if I remember correctly, was under constant attack from the southern barbarians, barbarians I myself contended with. As you can see, it cost me an eye." Jumong said.

"Then it is official General, we agree to your terms..."

[Pitboss Vikings]

General Kevin, Big Kev, called Harald forward.

Yuong man, it is time to step forward and be honoured to join our army ranks. You shall have the rank of Leuitenant and your orders are to follow the korean general to make sure he safely arrives in Meeting City. First though i have a three axemen who are ready to storm this city of oldonia with the koreans, it wont be easy but we must win.

Big Kev gave orders to his men and made plans with the koreans.

Tonight they would storm the city fro mtwo sides. Time to end the Islamic uprising.

[Pitboss Khmer]

Originally posted by Pitboss Greece
Hail Marco of the Portuguese Empire,

Congratulations on your discovery of new worlds!
I am surprised and impressed by the naval knowledge and technology Portugal has!

I do definitely acknowledge the Portuguese claim on these new lands. Sparta has no desires to settle anywhere else then on the Spartan subcontinent.
Your great achievements should be awarded by being allowed to settle on these new lands!

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Alcetas,
King of Sparta

ganesh does protest at this sentiment dear alcetas.

there many nation with limited land and many not as big as portugal or yourself.

think of poor funglish and holy romans and even metal and celt who might all like new land one day. there may be other as well on your continent like japan and maya who need land.

khmer has much less land than rome and restrict itself as much as possible to help neighbour civ.

it good that marco says agree with maya and khmer.

[Pitboss Greece]

I don't know about these funglish, holy romans or celts you talk about, great Ganesh.
Not to mention that there's plenty of space on our continent where Japan and Maya can settle.

But what bothers me most is that you apparently feel like every nation on earth deserves the same amount of land.
Nations belong on the lands that are theirs. Portugal has found these new lands and can therefore claim these.

But if you are worried about those nations you mentioned, as far as I know are you very wealthy in land, maybe you can give some of yours to these nations.

Alcetas,
King of Sparta

[Pitboss Celts]

The Celts feel very cramped in their limited space. With Khmer to our south, Metalheads to the east and America to the north, we are squeezed on the coast. America and Celtic lands were settled almost on top of each other from the beginning of time, so we have grown close friends.

We have become a little disturbed with Metalheads squeezing into the few square miles between our borders and the shores of the great lake. And now the Holy Roman Empire looks to be squeezing in on the north shore of the great lake. This is all very disconcerting.

[Pitboss Portugal]

Ganesh aren’t you forgetting that Portugal needs land too? We agreed with you about the right to claim falls only on settled land didn’t we in order to be recognized? Please stop with this nonsense that Portugal is big, when there are much bigger civilization than us out there. Looking on the map you can see that Portugal is enclosed and cut of from any further expansion on our continent.

Japan and Maya you speak of have much unsettled land yet, as well as the Metals. Why are you trying to compare our situation to theirs? When they have land to expand and we do not have!

think of poor funglish and holy romans and even metal and celt who might all like new land one day. there may be other as well on your continent like japan and maya who need land.

Where was Ganesh when the Metals pressed into HRE territories, you did and said nothing. About the so called funglish, the world map shows free land on your east side, why don’t you give it to them?

Now the latest:

We have become a little disturbed with Metalheads squeezing into the few square miles between our borders and the shores of the great lake. And now the Holy Roman Empire looks to be squeezing in on the north shore of the great lake. This is all very disconcerting.

Ganesh seems that you aren’t helping as much those civilizations as you are claiming to be. Most lack land like America, Celts and HRE because you did nothing to mediate the situation.

[Pitboss Portugal]

all khmer policy says is recognise only land with city on it but not unsettle land. this all we ever said

Now that we have a settlement there thus this means Khmer recognizes the settlemnet as Potruguese territory?

Marco

[Pitboss Japan]

I can see where the Khmer are coming from when using Japan in its comparison. From the map you can only see Japan as my territory when in fact I own more then Just Japan. I have 2 larger islands, the peninsula under the Natives, the land between the Oldonian Gateway city and the Spartan land bridge, and various smaller islands south of Japan. As you can see I have a lot of land of my own which is mostly unsettled due in part because of my weak economy. I think the Khmer are just using the other nations to cover the fact that all he wants is more lands for himself. Stop pretending you are concerned with other nations when your not.

Philip, Japanese Imperial Court

[Pitboss Vikings]

To all world leaders.

It would appear there is a discussion on land rights and ability for all nations to share this world.

I think a world forum is needed where our leaders can sit and discuss boundaries for our nations.

I propose we all make maps of our lands and our claimed lands and bring them to a meeting to be held at a suitable time and place.

From there we can agree on the split of the world.

Who ever does not attend this meeting with maps will have no rights to lands.

Once the boundaries are settled any disagreements will be settled collectively.

We propose this in the hope for a peaceful outcome

King Kevin

[Pitboss Khmer]

Originally posted by Pitboss Portugal


Now that we have a settlement there thus this means Khmer recognizes the settlemnet as Potruguese territory?

Marco

of course marco. we always said we did but tongue misunderstand it seem.

once again khmer policy.
- khmer not recognise unsettled land as 'claimed'
- khmer does recognise settled with city land.

inca just built a city on our border that we were to settle but they too quick so we recognise inca city.

why such misunderstand marco?

[Pitboss Khmer]

Originally posted by Pitboss Portugal
Ganesh aren’t you forgetting that Portugal needs land too? We agreed with you about the right to claim falls only on settled land didn’t we in order to be recognized? Please stop with this nonsense that Portugal is big, when there are much bigger civilization than us out there. Looking on the map you can see that Portugal is enclosed and cut of from any further expansion on our continent.

Japan and Maya you speak of have much unsettled land yet, as well as the Metals. Why are you trying to compare our situation to theirs? When they have land to expand and we do not have!

think of poor funglish and holy romans and even metal and celt who might all like new land one day. there may be other as well on your continent like japan and maya who need land.

Where was Ganesh when the Metals pressed into HRE territories, you did and said nothing. About the so called funglish, the world map shows free land on your east side, why don’t you give it to them?

Now the latest:

We have become a little disturbed with Metalheads squeezing into the few square miles between our borders and the shores of the great lake. And now the Holy Roman Empire looks to be squeezing in on the north shore of the great lake. This is all very disconcerting.

Ganesh seems that you aren’t helping as much those civilizations as you are claiming to be. Most lack land like America, Celts and HRE because you did nothing to mediate the situation.

that war was in my father shiva era and things different in ancient time.

we talk of today now.

so it clear there lots nation with land pressure but it true not khmer. portugal is not too bad and has unsettled land at home. but khmer it recognise as say above that city in new portugal is recognise.

we help with spain and inca in recgonise good border for their expansion but celt, america, metal and hre are very cramp and not much khmer can do there.

SO this why it important that vast tract of new lands not be claimed until city there.

marco, it difficult to talk you. we not accuse you of anything but simply state khmer policy for all the reason you mention; yet you all over us like rash. he joke khmer style.

great tiding.

[Pitboss Khmer]

Originally posted by Pitboss Japan
I can see where the Khmer are coming from when using Japan in its comparison. From the map you can only see Japan as my territory when in fact I own more then Just Japan. I have 2 larger islands, the peninsula under the Natives, the land between the Oldonian Gateway city and the Spartan land bridge, and various smaller islands south of Japan. As you can see I have a lot of land of my own which is mostly unsettled due in part because of my weak economy. I think the Khmer are just using the other nations to cover the fact that all he wants is more lands for himself. Stop pretending you are concerned with other nations when your not.

Philip, Japanese Imperial Court

it sad read this.

khmer gifted tech to many neighbours and help in other way too with resources and information.

khmer have no plan to settle foreign soil. we have 11 city and can build a few more which is still less than some.

ganesh pride in altruistic aim. but can see annoyance of other nation, even those friend who ganesh thought could help by promoting this policy.

ganesh will take more care on words used internationally.

sad tiding.

[Pitboss Khmer]

just a point to hre and metal.

why is not that iron resource city establish yet?

khmer deliberate not expand that way and it good if inca also refrain.

but there is a chunk of land here that is perfect for hre expansion if metal agree?