Beyond the Pit [Pitboss Diplomacy Game] [Story Thread] . PART 4 (November)

[Pitboss Khmer]

Originally posted by Pitboss Vikings
To all world leaders.

It would appear there is a discussion on land rights and ability for all nations to share this world.

I think a world forum is needed where our leaders can sit and discuss boundaries for our nations.

I propose we all make maps of our lands and our claimed lands and bring them to a meeting to be held at a suitable time and place.

From there we can agree on the split of the world.

Who ever does not attend this meeting with maps will have no rights to lands.

Once the boundaries are settled any disagreements will be settled collectively.

We propose this in the hope for a peaceful outcome

King Kevin

those excellent suggest mr old of old.

tiding.

no.

great tiding.

he.

ganesh suggest proposer of idea call for summit?

marco, is it possible for map of new portugal be posted?

khmer promise not settle it.

[Pitboss Khmer]

Originally posted by Pitboss Greece
I don't know about these funglish, holy romans or celts you talk about, great Ganesh.
Not to mention that there's plenty of space on our continent where Japan and Maya can settle.

But what bothers me most is that you apparently feel like every nation on earth deserves the same amount of land.
Nations belong on the lands that are theirs. Portugal has found these new lands and can therefore claim these.

But if you are worried about those nations you mentioned, as far as I know are you very wealthy in land, maybe you can give some of yours to these nations.

Alcetas,
King of Sparta

ganesh not care less for self but only suggest sparta agree with new portugal policy - which same as khmer.

you can only 'claim' land backed up by settler.

however mr old has ask for unsettled land claims to be put forth. this not khmer culture to have but khmer learn of others ways fast.

khmer claims no land anywhere until we put settler on it.
this proven by recent inca city on our border that khmer fully recognise. their settler travelled quicker than khmer one.

he. khmer lose their. but it ok.

great tiding alcetas.

[Pitboss Greece]

Sparta only recognizes the claim of strength and honour.
If a nation has the power to defend a piece of land against others, then Sparta recognizes it's claim to that land. Either with or without settlers ready to settle the spot.

Sparta is willing to supply it's friends with weapons and soldiers to defend land they claimed.
Sparta has also, perhaps more then any civilization on earth, given pieces of land Sparta was able to claim to it's neighbours!

Also has Sparta helped it's neighbours by supplying them the knowledge of world maps, expanding their trading opportunities, expanding their knowledge of the world and possible places to settle.

Sparta has failed once while trying to defend the claim of it's friend Sparta against the barbarians!
There's a debt we have towards the Japanese people that will exist until Sparta settles a new city for Japan and give it to them. Only then Sparta will ask for forgiveness and ask Japan if Sparta's debt has been paid for.

Some nations aren't able to defend large pieces of land, if they can't defend their lands against their enemies, then they should lose it. Why would you recognize these claims, Ganesh?

Some nations are born to be small, others are born to be large. We respect the greatness of the Khmer empire, and we will certainly recognize your claim to more lands, if you can grab them and defend them.
But we will also try to help our neighbours settling and defending new lands. Our neighbours and friends, most of all the Korean and Japanese people.

How have the Khmer helped it's neighbours?
Have the Khmer ever given land to it's neighbours that it's neighbours would never have been able to hold against the Khmer? Or are the words of the Khmer filled with emptiness? Did the do the walking or only the talking.

Great Ganesh, I have great respect and honour for you!
I consider you to be one of my friends, but like my friend from Japan already said, are you really trying to be good to the smaller nations, or are you using these smaller nations only to look better yourself?

Sparta has helped it's neighbours, not to look better. Sparta has never tried to. Sparta helps them because we believe that our greatness is only a gift of the gods, we feel like it's our honour and destiny to share it. We would disrespect ourselves if we would stop our friends from claiming new territory near our borders.

Great Ganesh, you are the leader of the greatest nation on earth!
Will you put your money where your mouth is?
Will you give some of your many cities to the neighbours about which you said that you cared for them? Or where your words indeed only a form to showcase your goodness?

I'm looking forward to your actions!
I'm sure that the Holy Romans, the Stinkans and the Celts would be very happy to accept some of your lands!
I will certainly recognize their claim son it, and hold great awe for you if you help them to protect it!

Alcetas
King of Sparta

[Pitboss Vikings]

We support the right of not only the pwoerful to hold laind claims but also the small.

Our neighbours the japanese are small and not powereful enough to defend alone the claims they have on land.

But we will support their rights to that land.

unlike the greeks we dont only respect the brave and the strong, we respect all man kinds rights to live and to thrive.

It should not be survival of the strognest in this world.

The small need the support of the large and it is right an it is so.

Any nation attempting to settle on the japanese islands given to them by negotiation with ourselves will meet the full force of the Oldonian military.

The land bridge conencting Oldonia and sparta is also the japanese territory. We again will fully support them in this area.

So lets not respect only the storng, lets repsect everyones rights.

[Pitboss America]

The Hovel Report

WAR!

The American people are grieving the deaths of their settlers that were travelling east ... first encountering the peaceful Metalheads who we passed cheering. They were then MURDERED by a new tribe - no not the endless hordes of barbarians ... a worse threat calling themselves Holly Roaming something.

America has always considered the lands to our east as claimed. This new intrusion by foreigners has inflamed the war hawks on our council. A ceasefire has been accepted while repatriations are discussed but if negotiations are unsuccessful it will be a bloody time as we turn our ample armies on a new threat.

= Roosevelt II

[Pitboss Vikings]

the second war started by the HRE !!!

[Pitboss Khmer]

this curious communique from sparta and king alcetas.

let ganesh work his way through for benefit of all understanding.

Originally posted by Pitboss Greece
Sparta only recognizes the claim of strength and honour.
If a nation has the power to defend a piece of land against others, then Sparta recognizes it's claim to that land. Either with or without settlers ready to settle the spot.

it culyural difference and ganesh respect spartan culture based on strength.

khmer see claim as city settled and of course if someone settle city but some else has troop to kill then it go without saying, however khmer would not do this. inca city easy to kill next to us and over sea from inca but khmer policy recognise inca city.

Sparta is willing to supply it's friends with weapons and soldiers to defend land they claimed.
Sparta has also, perhaps more then any civilization on earth, given pieces of land Sparta was able to claim to it's neighbours!

ganesh beg to differ although khmer maybe quieter on matter. maps in next post show land that khmer voluntarily refuse to settle from ancient times. it still not all settled but neighbour but khmer stay out.

Also has Sparta helped it's neighbours by supplying them the knowledge of world maps, expanding their trading opportunities, expanding their knowledge of the world and possible places to settle.

it same with khmer. all world map traded tro all neighbour on meduian continent. if not all receive ask again as diplo screen dodgy, you say.

Sparta has failed once while trying to defend the claim of it's friend Sparta against the barbarians!
There's a debt we have towards the Japanese people that will exist until Sparta settles a new city for Japan and give it to them. Only then Sparta will ask for forgiveness and ask Japan if Sparta's debt has been paid for.

Some nations aren't able to defend large pieces of land, if they can't defend their lands against their enemies, then they should lose it. Why would you recognize these claims, Ganesh?

it not clear your meaning. if portugal build city i could kill i would not. khmer policy respect portugal city.

Some nations are born to be small, others are born to be large. We respect the greatness of the Khmer empire, and we will certainly recognize your claim to more lands, if you can grab them and defend them.
But we will also try to help our neighbours settling and defending new lands. Our neighbours and friends, most of all the Korean and Japanese people.

alcetas, your concept of 'grabbing' not khmer style. but ganesh respect it as sparta style.

How have the Khmer helped it's neighbours?
Have the Khmer ever given land to it's neighbours that it's neighbours would never have been able to hold against the Khmer? Or are the words of the Khmer filled with emptiness? Did the do the walking or only the talking.

again, it not khmer concept to 'give'. it khmer policy to respect other nation settler who find themself in valley and decide a city to build. it khmer goodwill to hear neighbour nation request for unsettled land so khmer stay out but not give. it theirs when they settle. before that it no ones.

Great Ganesh, I have great respect and honour for you!
I consider you to be one of my friends, but like my friend from Japan already said, are you really trying to be good to the smaller nations, or are you using these smaller nations only to look better yourself?

it great disrespect comment. this thinking does not process in khmer minds. it shameful thought. and ganesh is sad.

Sparta has helped it's neighbours, not to look better. Sparta has never tried to. Sparta helps them because we believe that our greatness is only a gift of the gods, we feel like it's our honour and destiny to share it. We would disrespect ourselves if we would stop our friends from claiming new territory near our borders.

khmer hear much of sparta attempt to help neighbour but khmer more quiet on matter.

Great Ganesh, you are the leader of the greatest nation on earth!
Will you put your money where your mouth is?
Will you give some of your many cities to the neighbours about which you said that you cared for them? Or where your words indeed only a form to showcase your goodness?

your word not pleasant in khmer ear. have you not read story of gifting and voucher trade to help other nation. this include your own. khmer trade you civil service for future tech or voucher. this not help khmer but it help sparta enormous and now sparta is number three on some world wank.

ganesh sad with such comment and think it alcetas saying what he does and try to say khmer is doing it. remember cultural difference and misunderstanding of tongues.

I'm looking forward to your actions!
I'm sure that the Holy Romans, the Stinkans and the Celts would be very happy to accept some of your lands!
I will certainly recognize their claim son it, and hold great awe for you if you help them to protect it!

khmer has no lands other than where khmer city are. your thinking foreign to my mind and i sorry but we need more time to develop common thinking understands.

Alcetas
King of Sparta

[Pitboss Khmer]

this it clear on south of khmer.

spain claim much but settle little. too busy in bed with marco.

but it ok.

khmer stay out.

and inca sail from over sea to settle unannounced 'rice shore' on land khmer has a settle travelling there, but it ok and it respected.

more dialog with inca would help work out thing though.

[Pitboss Khmer]

and in north and east of khmer much land for metal, hre and even inca or funglish. still unsettled after eons. but khmer stay out despite desire for iron resource.

it celts in far north west that need oversea land but ganesh should not alway speak for other as many get annoyed and offended, not believing khmer altruism.

[Pitboss Greece]

Hail Philip, Japanese Imperial Court!

I am glad to inform you about our ship that has sailed out of the harbour of Knossos, carrying the settlers that will found the new city of New Osaka for Japan!

It's a long journey for the settlers, but I am sure that you are eager to know the status of this journey!
Sparta will pay the debts it has towards Japan!
We will keep you informed.

Alcetas
King of Sparta

[Pitboss Greece]

Friendly nation of Oldonia,

I get the idea that you misunderstood the attitude of Sparta towards the Smaller Nations on earth!
We do respect and honour the smaller nations and their claims on land, not only with words, but also with deeds!
If Japan is not able to defend it's cities, then Sparta will send help. There for Japan is able to defend it's cities, for which we honour and respect them!

Never has Sparta token land from smaller nations, despite the fact that they sometimes wouldn't have been able to defend it against the armies of Sparta.
In the known history only Rome has conquered cities from others.

Sparta has always and will always be willing to help their friends. Unless of course these nations want to settle on grounds that are being defended by Sparta soldiers.

I hope you understand!

Alcetas
King of Sparta

[Pitboss Greece]

Great Ganesh,

I wish to respond to your comment that was brought to me in the following way:

again, it not khmer concept to 'give'. it khmer policy to respect other nation settler who find themself in valley and decide a city to build. it khmer goodwill to hear neighbour nation request for unsettled land so khmer stay out but not give. it theirs when they settle. before that it no ones.

If this is Khmer policy, then I don't understand why you responded in a negative way to Sparta's earlier message to the Portuguese!

Alcetas,
King of Sparta

[Pitboss Japan]

Hail Philip, Japanese Imperial Court!

I am glad to inform you about our ship that has sailed out of the harbor of Knossos, carrying the settlers that will found the new city of New Osaka for Japan!

It's a long journey for the settlers, but I am sure that you are eager to know the status of this journey!
Sparta will pay the debts it has towards Japan!
We will keep you informed.

Alcetas
King of Sparta

To: Alcetas, King of Sparta,

You have truly honored Japan. It is truly us who can never fully repay you for all you have done for Japan. I will be sure to tell Emperor Itoku of the progress of the settler as soon as he arrives in Kyoto.

Philip, Head of Imperial Court/ Japanese Imperial Court.

[Pitboss Japan]

ganesh will take more care on words used internationally.

It is sad. You are not from around my side of the world so you do not know how short of a temper Japan has. It would be mindful of you especial when including Japan to be mindful of you say for it would be a shame If you were to lose all but 1 of your cities for nothing more then a misunderstanding.

Philip

[Pitboss Khmer]

Originally posted by Pitboss Greece
Great Ganesh,

I wish to respond to your comment that was brought to me in the following way:

again, it not khmer concept to 'give'. it khmer policy to respect other nation settler who find themself in valley and decide a city to build. it khmer goodwill to hear neighbour nation request for unsettled land so khmer stay out but not give. it theirs when they settle. before that it no ones.

If this is Khmer policy, then I don't understand why you responded in a negative way to Sparta's earlier message to the Portuguese!

Alcetas,
King of Sparta

Originally posted by Pitboss Greece
I do definitely acknowledge the Portuguese claim on these new lands.

Your great achievements should be awarded by being allowed to settle on these new lands!

Alcetas,
King of Sparta

ok it seem misunderstand which realistic in worlds. but it seem too many speak same tongue and not realistic. there should be more misunderstands in reality.

the fine point khmer is make is that a third continent can not be wholly claimed by one nation but portugal acknowledge this so not a problem.

ganesh now cut out tongue. he.