Possible Diplogame Mod

[The Capo]

Sorry if that came off as angry, it just sucks to get what appears to be harsh crticism when it is unnecessary and when I can easily change things. This was released to be playtested, which is why it hasn't been posted anywhere other than the MP forums yet.

I suppose I could make Constantine available to both the Romans and Byzantines if that makes both sides of the argument happy.

But what would you suggest for Reagan besides Financial? (the economy did improve under Reagan by the way, even though I hate to admit it). Creative? That makes no sense. Industrious? Philosophical? Spiritual? Imperial? Expansive?

I think the traits he has fits him best. He's only there because I thought it was a good looking LH anyway.

[The Capo]

Alright, all of the issues listed have been fixed:

-Har Meggido issue
-Misplaced buttons
-New intro music
-Axeman and Swordsman names have been changed to Footman and Light Footman
-Constantine available to both the Romans and the Byzantines

I have also finished my first module pack that goes with the mod, I probably won't make another for another month or two but if you have suggestions for new modular civilizations to go with the Diplomod PM me and I'll see what I can do. To show you that I will make requested modules if they are reasonable enough here is the list of modules I have made for the Diplomod:

- Teutonic Order (Requested by Pitboss Persia); leader is Hermann von Salza, UU is the Teutonic Paladin (replaces heavy footman/maceman), UB is the Teutonic Chapel (replaces colosseum)
- Hungary (Requested by OzzyKP); leaders are Arpad and St. Stephan, UU is the Huszar Cavalry (replaces Cuirassier), UB is the Science Institute (replaces University)
- Phoenicia; leaders are Hiram of Tyre and Balbazer II, UU is the Bireme Galley (replaces Galley), and the UB is the Phoenician Seaport (replaces Harbor)
- Nubia; leader is Taharqa, UU is the Medjay Bowman (replaces longbowman), and the UB is the Nubian Vault (replaces granary)

To find out the traits and stats for the UUs and UBs you'll just have to try out the modules!

@ Japan: I don't know if you noticed but I have already given Japan two new leaders! Meiji and Hirohito. Meiji did look a lot like Taizong though, but luckily there is a new Meiji, and this time he has his own background. I have attached that image below. Expect the updated mod with the module pack to be up VERY soon!

[The Capo]

And here is the new and improved Meiji (thanks to Ekmek at Civfanatics, simply "E" here at Apolyton), I added a new background so he doesn't have to share with Taizong:

[Pitboss Japan]

I noticed you added two but 1 more won't hurt.

[Pitboss Japan]

You know what. If you put a hat on Meji and take off the facial hair you two would look exactly the same.

[Robert]

It's against all laws of Japan and all honour of Japan to depict Meiji

As a Japanese citizen I can only object to this clear violation of the honour of Meiji

Well done picture, btw, I'd say: keep it

[LzPrst]

hey. sorry about the rant. but i have a sore spot for certain political leaders.

my argument about reagan was simply this. he didn't really make the economy improve. he made it look like it did. and racked up a huge debt doing it. that's just not financial.
another aspect of his presidency was an enormous spending on the military. imperialistic might fit him? or perhaps aggressive or protective.

and constantine founded a new capital for the Roman empire, namely Constantinople, on the location of Bysants in the year 330 AD. the byzantian empire is simply another word for the eastern roman empire. It was still one empire but administration was split into east and west. approximately 100 years later the western part ceased to exist as an empire and fell apart. my argument about Constantine is that he was so instrumental in making the old empire into a new one with its weight in the east, that he should be part of the eastern one, and thus byzantium. it is a bit hazy to say exactly when the old Roman empire became the Byzantine empire, but the founding of Byzantium/Constantinople (and the conversion of Constantine to Christianity) seems to mark the start of the Byzantine empire.

[LzPrst]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiji_Emperor

is this Meiji? more facial hair perhaps?

[Pitboss Japan]

yes more facial hair is needed.

[The Capo]

Traditionally historians mark the "Byzantine" Empire as begining in the middle ages. Thus after the final split of the East and Western Empires, I think in general Arcadius is considered the first "byzantine" Emperor. Which is why they use the term Byzantine rather than Eastern Roman. But like I said, the reason I made Constantine the leader for Rome is because he ruled over the entire Roman Empire, not simply the Eastern Roman Empire. But this is already fixed because, as I've said, I am making him a leader for both.

I'll change Reagan if everyone else thinks I should, I could go either way honestly but Ozzy seems to be the most stoked about Reagan, so I'll let him speak his piece first.

And BTW, that picture of Meiji you found is one picture, I believe this is the one Ekmek was using as a reference:



So it should be fine, and honestly Japan the two Japanese LH's can't possibly look the same if you take the hat and glasses off because they use two different leaders as a base. One has a thinner and longer head, one has a little goatee, one is lighter than the other, one's ears stick out more. They just have similar uniforms because, I don't know, they are from the same country! And their uniforms are based on their uniforms from real life.

As I said before; if you think Japan should have another leader I'd be glad to add one more if you simply suggest another one. Japan really didn't have too many good leaders, for the majority of their history their Emperors were figureheads. Even Meiji and Hirohito were basically ineffectual, they are simply there as representatives of eras in Japanese history. So I'd be more than happy to add a fourth leader if you can think of someone who deserves it.

[MMC]

Hiro Nakamura?

[OzzyKP]

Hiro

Traits: Time, Space

And yes, I still maintain that Reagan should be Financial, Charismatic

[The Capo]

You bastards!

I thought that was a real person, because I've NEVER seen the show before, and I looked him up on Wikipedia.

But I think a fourth for Japan, simply for the sake of having a fourth leader, is a bit over the top. There are plenty of countries that could easily use a fourth leader above Japan that don't have a fourth leader as it is. Japan is a great country and all, but as I've said they haven't really had great national leadership. Especially considering their relatively recent emergence as a "nation-state." Perhaps if there was some type of feudal lord you can think of that I could use that would be good, but another important thing to realize is that I am not the one making the leaderheads. They are all other people's work, so if the art isn't out there it isn't out there.

[Pitboss Japan]

Who deserves to be a leaderhead more then Nobunaga Oda? I would trade one of the new heads for Oda any day.

[LzPrst]

also, I'm a bit uncertain of why you think it important that a civ trait does not double up in multiple leaders. the regular game has plenty of that.
both chinese leaders are protective, both celtic are charismatic, both indian are spiritual, 2/3 of England's are financial, both Rome's leaders are imperialistic, both Mongols are aggressive and so on.

I believe giving leaders some variation of traits is good, but there is no reason not to double up if the trait in question is relevant to the civ. I suspect this is done for numerous reasons, and one of them is balance and synergy. for example, china's protective leaders will give bonuses to the Cho-Ko-Nu UU. and some civs, like the Mongols, are known most for their conquests and as such it be natural that their leaders have traits that assist in that. just 2 cents. I don't have any complaints really, but I just thought I'd mention it.