Looking at this a second time i think he just made a good deal, Vikings paid a whole voucher plus a tech just for an Russian tech.
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Originally posted by Robert Plomp View PostCare to expain Russia?
The deal I made was exactly the same as the one made with the Celts. I had no Vouchers and both had Techs I wanted. In both cases I offerred a higher value - beaker terms - Tech on the understanding that both Vouchers would be provided by the other Civ. Hence 'Tech + Voucher from Vikings, Tech to Vikings. Russia = 0 Vouchers.'!
These were both perfectly legitimate Tech Trades which allowed Russia to gain a Tech when lacking any Vouchers. The cost to Russia was that it gave a high value Tech for a lesser value one. The cost to Celts/Vikings was that they had to provide both Vouchers! You have always stated that Vouchers can be traded just like Gold, Land, Tribute or anything else you may wish for. No rule was broken by Russia or even 'bent'. All fair and above board. How else are smaller powers ever going to gain high value Techs at this late stage in the Game? How else are larger powers going to be able to gain Techs, without backward research, at all?
I made similar deals upon taking over Russia - just the other way round - to compensate for the parlous state of Russian research in the past. Records will confirm this.
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Time for an update
Code:Vouchers Voltans left Total left maya 15 used [DONE] - 0 portugal 15 used [DONE] - 0 Japan 15 used [DONE] 0 0 America 15 used [DONE] 0 0 Rome 15 used [DONE] - 0 spain 15 used [DONE] - 0 greece 15 used [DONE] - 0 Russia 15 used [DONE] 0 0 Khmer 15 used [DONE] - 0 metalheads 14 used - 1 English 14 used 1 2 HRE 13 used 0 2 natives 13 used 0 2 Celts 13 used 0 2 vikings 12 used 0 3
I still don't know who lost this voucher.
Most probably Metalheads, HRE or Celts
Please let me know.Last edited by Robert; May 20, 2009, 07:44.Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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Originally posted by Robert Plomp View PostTime for an update
Code:Vouchers Voltans left Total left maya 15 used [DONE] - 0 portugal 15 used [DONE] - 0 Japan 15 used [DONE] 0 0 America 15 used [DONE] 0 0 Rome 15 used [DONE] - 0 spain 15 used [DONE] - 0 greece 15 used [DONE] - 0 Russia 15 used [DONE] 0 0 Khmer 15 used [DONE] - 0 metalheads 14 used - 1 English 14 used 1 2 HRE 13 used 0 2 natives 13 used 0 2 Celts 13 used 0 2 vikings 12 used 0 3
I still don't know who lost this voucher.
Most probably Metalheads, HRE or Celts
Please let me know.Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
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Originally posted by Pitboss Natives View PostRecieved 1 tech from Russia in return for 1 Voucher.
This would leave Russia with 1 voucher left to use.
Natives have 1 voucher left to use as well.
You could always give me a second Voucher and I'd bless your Teepee forever!“Quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur”
- Anon
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