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  • #616
    Ras, it's in the manual that comes with the game.

    Although, I still don't see what everyone has against Finland. I admit Denmark is better (they have Legoland!!!) but all of Scandinavia is great.

    Anywho, I can't remember the traits of the civ I picked (but I don't care), but I have a worrying feeling that I might have picked a Financial Civ... it's not a guilty feeling, more a fear of Ras's Jihad... I don't play for the War, nor do I play for the Finance, I play for the Science... why should I be singled out?
    Ceeforee v0.1 - The Unofficial Civ 4 Editor -= Something no Civ Modder should ever be without =- Last Updated: 27/03/2009
    "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean there's no conspiracy"

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    • #617
      Originally posted by MMC
      Is it just me or is Wittlich yet to disagree with anyone about anything?

      Let's put it to the test...

      Wittlich, you shall be my Vassal for as long as it is possible in the game. In exchange, you will get another cookie.

      *Hands over the first cookie that was promised to Wittlich*
      NOT! I refuse your simplistic cookie.
      ____________________________
      "One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996
      "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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      • #618
        Originally posted by Rasputin
        ok i got a simple solution for all this concern over who is going to win cause they have a Fin Trait.

        Lets all gang up immediately on all Fin Traited civs.
        I for one, thought that was the forgone conclusion.
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        "One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996
        "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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        • #619
          How about a bag of cookies?
          Ceeforee v0.1 - The Unofficial Civ 4 Editor -= Something no Civ Modder should ever be without =- Last Updated: 27/03/2009
          "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean there's no conspiracy"

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          • #620
            Let me think about it a bit.
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            "One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996
            "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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            • #621
              Choc chip?
              Ceeforee v0.1 - The Unofficial Civ 4 Editor -= Something no Civ Modder should ever be without =- Last Updated: 27/03/2009
              "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean there's no conspiracy"

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              • #622
                Originally posted by OzzyKP
                Looks like Deity didn't even obey it, and he suggested it.
                Well, I made a suggestion and there was very little discussion and certainly no agreement. I definitely did not pick FIN trait, regardless.

                I agree with your points but don't have a discussion now when no agreement was made and we've now made our choices. Further discussion damages other perceptions...

                "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
                *deity of THE DEITIANS*
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                • #623
                  Toni: You can pick a new civ, if you want. Since Beta has picked a civ as well it will still be a tad bit anonymous

                  Regarding the fin-trait, I don't think it's that bad. Players like Toni, deity and Ozzy are just good players, no matter what trait they use. Sure, fin has an advantage in peacefull games, but who says this is going to be peacefull?

                  Anyway, Toni, it's up to you, you can pick a new civ now. (or the same again)
                  Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                  Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                  • #624
                    For the name: I like "Master of the Pit" most.
                    Good suggestions, Ozzy
                    Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                    Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                    • #625
                      I like Master of the Pit, but "Beyond the Pit" seems a bit more HUGE.

                      And, with 18 players, you can be sure there will be many wars. There is not enough land for everybody.

                      BTW FIN helps with military upkeep as well, so i definitively agree : DEATH TO THE FIN TRIBES !

                      EDIT : We could make a religion for all ennemys of the FIN tribes !

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                      • #626
                        ..and so the nomdic tribe formed citys and they did explore, they built roads and farms, they wandered the land, and upon their travels they met a strang epeople. At first glance they appeared the same as thier own people, but upon their backs were Fins, and the Fin people were not liked , they were feared. When word of these Fin people arrived back in the temple the priests did declare that they were abominations to the one true god. So it was decreed that the people with Fins must die to appease the holy order......
                        GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                        • #627
                          Jihad upon the Fins!


                          And the Swedes too.


                          I think Ozzy is very very right. Its good to hear Deity and Ozzy didn't pick Fin civs.

                          I like:
                          Master of the Pit
                          Test of time
                          Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                          The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                          • #628
                            @ raz

                            financial is a bit overpowered due to the synergy (gods I hate marketspeak). 1. faster to get religion = more $. 2. faster to get new weapons tech = defence. 3. more money for more upkeep = bigger army. 4. more cash flow allows more cities = more production, more resources. 5. more cash = possible higher investments in culture/espionage. 6. with the abovementioned bonuses you get more power, more money, more culture = more dominance. up up and away.

                            industrious is almost useless if you're behind in the tech race though, so I don't feel it is overly overpowered. and it can be matched with resources. (of course an ind civ with marble, stone, copper and ivory... gods would fear it)
                            regardless, choices have been made, lets fight it out!



                            There is one thing I suspect we have not determined 100%. and that is game length. I believe Epic has some votes, but personally, I would like to stomp my foot on normal. the reason should be obvious. how many turns total in Epic and Normal?

                            Normal=500 turns
                            Epic=750 turns

                            Counting 1 turn per day, even with the first 100 turns played on quicker speed, we're still in for more than a year of play. MORE than a year. with epic, we're talking almost TWO YEARS! sorry to say, but that does seem a bit long. what do people think?
                            Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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                            • #629
                              No normal feels rushed, we won't experience the ages propoerls, and if we don't experience the ages then how is this any better/ different than a advanced start! I am fully behind epic but think we should have a classical start. To the nay sayers I say, play a game with it and you will see how great that setting is! It will also help poorer players and will reduce the advantage Fin civs have.
                              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                              • #630
                                No against classical start
                                Tried it, keep saying nay.
                                The first turns are perhaps the turns I love most.

                                Maybe LzPrst is right, 750 turns is 2 years! (even with classical start it almost 2 years)

                                Maybe we should play normal.
                                Trust me, 1,5 years won't feel rushed at all.
                                Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                                Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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