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  • We can debate on this forever, but we're with 17 players, we will never agree anyway.
    Very true. I have read all posts and will incorporate what I think will work the best. Some ideas will need to be left out unfortunately, because they fly in the face of another idea.

    Now that I have the civs I can flesh it out so to speak.

    I would love to say that I will be done with it in a day or two, but a huge size map is... well... huge. I don't want to comprimise quality for speed.

    Hold tight and thou shall be rewarded with many tundra starts!

    You can write stories about your people starving and eating tree bark!

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    • oh yes my people will starve but they will not eat trees. they will eat the flesh of whom ever crosses them.

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      • Just a small question! I see a problem with some civs surrounded by choppable forest (Extra hammers) while others starting in jungles (null reward). Are you going to balance that somehow Pinchak with maybe better resources or more of them?

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        • Originally posted by MMC
          *Pre-emptively prepares a cookie for Wittlich*
          Well, after reading your points (and re-reading them)....sure, give me that damned cookie. (ie, I concur).
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          • Ok so looks like we stuck with a lot of things we dont like.,

            I dont want my civ to be stuck with astarting location based on their historical earth based start.

            I want totally random starts for all civs. Yed if i picked england i dont care if it strts in Egypt or anywhere else. As long as it random.

            I dont care who i next to , that is the fun of diplo, having to negotiate with neighoburs.

            As a novice to Civ playing i dont understand the negative of having all the Fin traits together. (again i do hate traits in the game and never will be convinced they are good, all civs should start with same techs, units, etc, let the humans make the differences not some preprogrammed computer sript , just my 2 cents worth)

            I just hope this game doesnt become a gloating of who is bettr etc. If you want that, i can tel lyou right now, i wont win, you wont here any i am here to kick your butt from me, I am sure some will leave me alone to let me enjoy my stories , some others will target me as an easy civ to destroy.

            All i hope is that the Diplo players here come to the aid.
            GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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            • Ok, a slight change....

              Anyone *****ing about the map from this point forward gets put into a special starting location pool called "ice islands".

              An ice island start is basicly ice tile in the middle of the ocean. Rest assured however, I will make sure metal is on that tile so you can defend yourself.

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              • On a more serious note, you guys got to calm down and have faith that NOBODY IS GOING TO GET SCREWED.

                Seriously, I am about to just say lets use a computer generated map dispite the work I already put into this map. I already know that regardless of the amount of effort I put into this some ungrateful a$$hole(s) is going to complain about it because SOMEHOW it isn't going to fit their personal one of seventeen vision.

                Whew... ok I'm done now. Back to making the map...

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                • I see a problem with some civs surrounded by choppable forest (Extra hammers) while others starting in jungles (null reward).
                  Already considered... and addressed.

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                  • My beef is not how good my start is but that i dont want to be places somewhere based on my particular civ. Diplo games are not necessarily about being historically accurate.

                    Originally when we started DIPLO it was more about history which is why it was called HISTORY of the WORLD for the first few incarcerations of it, but we have now moved on from there
                    GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                    • Rasp, I think that your (very valid) point has been understood by Pinchak.

                      I just suggest that we now let him do his thing.
                      I'm sure it'll be ok. And if it sucks we'll punish him
                      Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                      Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                      • Originally posted by Rasputin
                        Originally when we started DIPLO it was more about history which is why it was called HISTORY of the WORLD for the first few incarcerations of it, but we have now moved on from there
                        Diplogames were in prison ?

                        (the word you searched was "incarnations".)

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                        • Wow, a Frenchman correcting an Australian about his English. Has the world gone upside down? I am glad that I have not missed anything. I am sure that Pinchak will make a superb map.


                          Does this grovelling get me a better starting position now?

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                          • Hail Pinchak

                            We all can't wait to see what an amazing world you've created!

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                            • gief cookie!


                              I don't really care. make map! when is patch ready?
                              Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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                              • About that 1st session some talk of, its mission impossible IV. Lets just go with the 8hr turns for the first 100 turns.

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