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  • Frank, I'm afraid that it's impossible to have you and me in one game. You stated that you can only play after something 2.30 am my time.

    Since I'm a part of the problem I don't want to influence them which timezone they pick, but I can understand that there's nothing to discuss

    It's either you or me
    Formerly known as "CyberShy"
    Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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    • I've always been against a game that attempts to bring everyone in the world together for 1 game on a regular basis. I mean its fine for you guys if you want to keep having the same game, with the same set of players over and over again on to eternity, and are willing to play in a narrow time slot.

      It would be much better to simply divide two games so that one can be played at a time to favor two major time areas, like Europe/America, or Europe/Australia, or Australia/Amercia, then limit the game time as we have so far. But as long as this game will take anyone willing to play under narrow conditions, its going to be hard to start another. The hard things have to be said, and I know its your or me, but the bigger issue is although you are a great player, why are we allowing 1 european player to kill the time slot for 9 Americans and Aussies who might play twice as long if it wasn't the dead of morning in Europe.

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      • "Eurasia is evil. Eurasia has always been evil. Oceana is our friend. Oceana has always been our friend."

        "The thirty minute Hate for Eurasia will now commence!"

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        • Ive been talking to Toni for a while and he is relentless, to say the least. I originally said I wouldnt play due to the amount of travel I would have with work. The problem is, I rarely know exactly when I will travel and I never have much notice. This means that there is a real possibility that I will miss a number of sessions.

          If all involved have no problem with this, I certainly have no problem with the AI taking over if I miss. If anybody does object, I will sit out as I originally planned, so please let it be known here if that is the case.

          If nobody has a problem with me playing, my choice of settings are: Ill go with the majority, I truely dont care.

          Time is another matter. I can really only play in our current time slot, which for me right now is 5:30pm CST (UTC -6 or 11:30pm UTC) on Friday. I definitely cant make it earlier due to my normal work schedule and any later than 9pm CST and my wife will make my real life miserable

          Civ: Mansa Musa
          Last edited by Glohithia; February 1, 2007, 23:11.
          Non Serviam

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          • Seriously, Frank ... perhaps you could get a diplogame started with a later start time, and invite the Oz crowd, and other folks on the West Coast?

            There are a few California folks who like getting started later than the East Coast / Euro crowd, and often play in the OZ weekend bloodbaths.

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            • I'm pretty sad about the Frank thing

              I really want both players in the game and Frank has some good points but I can't see a solution really

              I'm not so keen on two diplos as Frank's timeslot is often when Aussie regular games get played I think but maybe we have tw back to back diplos on USA Fri nights - maybe. A lot of Aussies could be in the second game I think.
              "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
              *deity of THE DEITIANS*
              icq: 8388924

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              • HOTW 8 Update

                1. Nolan = Egypt, Ramesses II (Indus, Spiritual)
                2. kbarrett = India, Ghandi (Philosophic, Spiritual)
                3. Levi = Zulu, Shaka (Aggressive, Organized)
                4. Kuno = Korea, Wang Kong (Financial, Protective)
                5. CS = Incas, Huayna Capac (Indus, Financial)
                6. Toni = Germany, Bismarck (Indus, Expansive)
                7. Deity = Ottoman, Mehmed II (Expansive, Organized)
                8. Ozzy = England, Elizabeth I (Philosophic, Financial)
                9. Mike = Mali, Mansa Munsa (Financial, Spiritual)
                Last edited by Toni; February 1, 2007, 23:18.

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                • Originally posted by Frank Johnson
                  It would be much better to simply divide two games so that one can be played at a time to favor two major time areas, like Europe/America, or Europe/Australia, or Australia/Amercia, then limit the game time as we have so far. But as long as this game will take anyone willing to play under narrow conditions, its going to be hard to start another. The hard things have to be said, and I know its your or me, but the bigger issue is although you are a great player, why are we allowing 1 european player to kill the time slot for 9 Americans and Aussies who might play twice as long if it wasn't the dead of morning in Europe.
                  Which is exactly what I was talking to you about.

                  As far as I'm concerned there are no final rosters for any game. Right now, as I said to you several times on IM, our goals should be finding two workable time slots, and find enough players to populate games at both times. Then we can get into who should be in which game.

                  Frank is right that making the friday night game time an hour or two later would benefit every person involved besides CS. CS, would the time slot that Raz suggested earlier, work for you?

                  I think if people just work with me here we can have two excellent games running concurrently.
                  Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                  When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                  • Originally posted by deity
                    I'm pretty sad about the Frank thing

                    I really want both players in the game and Frank has some good points but I can't see a solution really

                    I'm not so keen on two diplos as Frank's timeslot is often when Aussie regular games get played I think but maybe we have tw back to back diplos on USA Fri nights - maybe. A lot of Aussies could be in the second game I think.
                    I'm just throwing this out there, but... Raz said Aussie Sat night he could make. That could be early US morning. I could, in theory, get up at like 6 or 7 Saturday morning to accommodate a 10 or 11 pm start time for the Aussie east coast. We could have a game then, and a game later Friday night that Frank could fit in.

                    While getting up early Sat morning would suck, I'd get my Friday night back which would be good for dates or whathaveyou.
                    Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                    When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                    • I'm pretty sad about the Frank thing

                      I really want both players in the game and Frank has some good points but I can't see a solution really

                      I'm not so keen on two diplos as Frank's timeslot is often when Aussie regular games get played I think but maybe we have tw back to back diplos on USA Fri nights - maybe. A lot of Aussies could be in the second game I think.
                      "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
                      *deity of THE DEITIANS*
                      icq: 8388924

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                      • HOTW 8 Update

                        1. Nolan = Egypt, Ramesses II (Indus, Spirtual)
                        2. kbarrett = India, Ghandi (Philosophic, Spirtual)
                        3. Levi = Zulu, Shaka (Aggressive, Organized)
                        4. Kuno = Korea, Wang Kong (Financial, Protective)
                        5. CS = Incas, Huayna Capac (Indus, Financial)
                        6. Toni = Germany, Bismarck (Indus, Expansive)
                        7. Deity = Ottoman, Mehmed II (Expansive, Organized)
                        8. Ozzy = England, Elizabeth I (Philosophic, Financial)
                        9. Mike = ?

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                        • The only other moment I could play is saturday european night, about the same timezone, but earlier.
                          I know that there's only a small timezone in which I can play, and that I'm a problem maker for that. I do absolutely understand that if you guys find a better spot the game has to proceed without me and I won't blame anyone for that.

                          I would of course cry like a baby
                          But hey, then there are two of them in our house

                          I hope that this issue won't split up the diplogame community in two angry fronts
                          It's not as if the community is that large.

                          Great Mike that you wannabe in 8!!!!!!!!
                          I'm really curious on how you'll do, managing a civ from the dawn of man!
                          Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                          Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                          • Sorry, CS but I have to make the arguement that yes, a move two hours later would benefit me, but also many others too. Obviously there's some motivation for me personally, but hey right now I'm the one with my name striken from the list not you.

                            But, I'd like to get everyone's opinion on a start time that is two hours later. Like Ozzy stated I believe it will help most people in the game currently. I believe it will also open the door to allow for a longer session and smoother game play.

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                            • If we move the game time, Im going to have to drop. Its not the end of the world for me, but now that Toni talked me into playing, Id vote for keeping the same time as HOTW7.
                              Non Serviam

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                              • Ok, I agree with what Toni said earlier that we should go back to the drawing board and list off all the times we can possibly make a 3-4 hour session. Please list times in GMT.

                                Ozzy -
                                23:00 - 07:00 Friday/Saturday
                                12:00 - 22:00 Saturday
                                12:00 - 16:00 Sunday
                                0:00 - 05:00 Monday
                                02:00 - 05:00 Wednesday, Thursday, Friday

                                These are all the times (in GMT) that I could conceivably make a game. Some times I'd definitely prefer over others. Please make a similar list (be specific) and we'll see what matches up.
                                Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                                When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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