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**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:00

RE: Re: I seek for your help and advice

Hail Elizabeth, Queen of the English,

thanks for your quick response and support in these difficult times!
I will send my missionaries to the english cities to help you to enligth the english cities even more then they already are! I did not find the southern islands you speak about yet though, eventhough I have searched for them. If you can supply me with maps this problem will be resolved quickly though.

As you surely must know I am currently already in a state of war with both the Indians and the Russians. Madness has taken the King of India, for I have always known him as a wise man, though now he has made friendship with the fools. This makes me and my people sad.

I hope you can help me and my people against these barbarians, who kill pregnant women and children among their own people.
I cannot fight both India and Russia.
Can you please build up enough pressure on the Russian border, so the Russian soldiers will not dare to leave their borders unprotected to fight the Americans?
I can fight the Indians without aid from the Russians.

The Germans and the French will help me from the South. I have asked the Spanish to build up pressure from the north as well, King El Cid of Spain has reacted friendfully and conciders my request.
I am sure that the two of you together will be strong enough to scare the Russians. I do not ask you to invade Russia, I only dare to ask you to scare them.

As soon as I'm finished with the Indians, with whom I still hope to establish peace again, since I believe that the madness of the Indian king is only a temorary state of mind, I will send my armies to the north and come to your aid.

As soon as this war is over I can start educating new missionaries, I am sure that you understand that my focus lies on building armies right now.

I do no aim for gaining territory, I aim for peace for my people, the Americans. And I aim for peace for the jewish people who are persecuted in the Russian cities right now.

I hope you will help me and my allies to establish this peace once again, and secure the Indian and Russian madness.

Robert LXVII
King of the Americans

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:01

RE: From the English in HOTW5

A decision needs to be made on the northern alliance. Our immediate threat is the Russians and subsequently the Indians. Therefore, we shall back you in any negotiations aiming towards this end with other nations. Efforts have been made to convince the Chinese of this but they have chosen to ally themselves with the Indian/Russian . We only ask that you keep us informed, as you have done until now.
Your eternal friend,

The Incas.

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:04

RE: From the English in HOTW5

To Queen Elizabeth.
From Gustaf of the Germans

I may be frail and my health is failing, but I am not dead yet. I have seen with great despair upon the growing conflict between America and Russo-India. This war is a disaster for German foreign policy. France and America are our friends, we desire a balance of power in the region.

A mighty and powerful presence of India or Russia in the region is a grave threat to France and by extension ourselves. Therefore I see no other choice than to support America in this conflict.

As to the situation on Koinsel Island. That city was settled by my brother Ulrich who considers all those lands to be his personal domain. Not a very pragmatic view for a would-be successor. Yet he is not ruler yet and I am willing to move the city. However, I am not sure if northwest would be the best location. Not to mention that the city must be razed and its people driven out and resettled from Germany, a highly costly endavour.

This brings forth a poignant issue. What shall be the final division of the Island? We should work together on this issue thoroughly. I suggest we meet and discuss it in private away from the prying eyes of the foul Indian spies. I will send a full map of the island with suggestions for settlement sites that are fair to both our interests.

And finally as to your suggestion of an alliance. We wish a fair alliance between our peoples and gratefully accept your gift of Marble. A great monument will be built to celebrate the union of our two peoples.

Now that we are formal allies; what will be your reaction in the Russo-Indian conflict? Support America openly with men and weapons? Or mere political protest? If we both demand a cessation of hostilities and threaten war, perhaps this conflict can be avoided? I will at first diplomatically support America with an ultimatum to the aggressors, if Russo-India are not deterred, then I will declare war, with likelyhood I may be able to bring France into the fray as well.
Yet I cannot do so without your support. Shall we be allies in war as well as peace?

To the great leader (whoever the hell it is!!) of Germany

Our war was a most regretful circumstance and in cooler moments now Elizabeth can see both sides; and in fact that both our nations share the same problems and strengths.

With three or four menacingly large nations threatening us little peoples of the East and South I suggest we form a rigid alliance. Our common interests are undeniable and we will gift you Marble as a gesture of continuing good faith but fear that the English are the ones constantly giving.

Our negotiations over the Western island seems to have fallen apart. We clearly thought that we agreed on settling the East and you the West? But recently a new city was built right on top of an English city in the East. This is NOT acceptable.

We BOTH feel that we own these islands but pragmatic compromise is essential if we are not to destroy ourselves.

We request that this new city be relocated NW by 2 squares. Otherwise eternal cultural CONFLICT WILL OCCUR. This will be down to the people and beyond yours or my absolute control.

If we can agree on borders and city plascement we may forge a great alliance with the Americans and the Inca - all the little nations rising and standing up to the big Western bullies.

It is essential that a solid alliance be formed, else we face oblivion. As I write the Russians are deploying forces to strike America. If she falls, France and Germany will follow. (It is less likely that they'll attack the Inca or us)

Please consider my proposals for the sake of both our nations. You'll have no better ally than the English.

I'll post a map of our border proposals.

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:04

Re: Concerns

Dear Sapa Inca,

I am in much haste at the moment. I assume you received the American strategy plan? I've not made a detailed reply as yet but I think the Inca/English strategy would be to maintain peace and open borders until the "THURSDAY" cry. At commencement of the next year Englanf moves all available Axemen into Inca cities leaving just Archers in our cities. Direct attack on us is unlikely. But being a Monarchy I can only move at a rate that does not cause too much unhappiness in my cities.

So all Inca cities are full of our combined troops to protect your vulnerable border and maybe use a few Inca troops, whilst you have OPen Borders with Russia to "have a look around" and see what's in the nearest Russian cities.

Our troop numbers are not much better than yours and England's production capacity is the weakest in the world so war is to be avoided if at all possible.

I will give you our troop details as soon as I can...

Yours, Liz

Concerns
Hail Elizabeth, Queen of the English,
Esteemed Ally of the Northern Front

Our long history of cooperation has proven thus far most beneficial to both our countries, and we remain as committed as ever to this Alliance, but we do have some concerns.

The Inca's relation with the Russians has been very peaceful and as we have a history of military cooperation, both against the Mongols and Barbarian tribes, an initiation of hostilities or an aggresive posture from us will be most unpleasant for them to say the least, and will surely fatally injure our peacefull relations.

We do have some unresolved issues with them that could be used as an excuse, but I don't believe it will suffice, so it will be seen by Russia as an uncalledfor aggression.

As I share an extensive border with the Russians an initiation of hostilities puts the Inca Empire in a very risky situation, and we could be subject to heavy losses, both civilian and military. It is thus imperative that secrecy be maintained for as long as possible, at least until we have made proper military preparations.

We request and are confident that you will keep the following clasified information top secret.

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Incan Military Readyness Report (Top Secret)
Cuzco Military Headquarters
Cuzco, 150 AD
Recon Units: 1 Scout
Archery Units: 3 Archers
Mounted Units: 2 Horse Archers
Melee Units: 1 Quechua, 3 Axemen
Naval Units: 1 Galley
End of Report
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As you can clearly see, we are not prepared yet for any significant military undertaking. Immediate measures will be taken to organize and prepare the Incan Military, but this effort must be a coordinated one. I await your proposal to set up a meeting in order to arrange and coordinate our coallition.

Let me just add that we have no hostile intent towards the Russians, but we can not allow the two most powerful nations of the world to freely bullie around other nations. Besides, recent expansionist efforts in the western lands have become frustrated by Spanish precense, so in the long term Inca will be forced to choose between expanding north on English territory or West on to Russian land. The choice is an obvious one, for you have proven yourself to be a valuable, consecuent and truthfull neighbor.

Best regards,

NicodaMax,
Sapa Inca of the Incan Empire

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:06

From the English in HOTW5
Dear friend...

coutesy copy for you of my negotiations with the Americans. Please maintain absolute secrecy and share your thoughts with me.

Re: I seek for your help and advice

CyberShy wrote on 28th March 2006 09:00 am:
Hail Elizabeth!,

ruler of the English forces.

I seek your help in the troubles that have arisen with my friends and neighbours, the Indians.
It appears to me that they seek war with me.
As you can see in the "History of the world V" annals, they're coming up with reasons to seek war with us, the peaceful Americans.

Can you advice me on what to do to prevent the Indians from conquering our cities and growing out to the major nation in the known world.

thanks in advance,

Robert LXVII
King of the Americans

To our new friend Robert,

Having been recently at war with you and Germany we both need to tread carefully in resurrecting our friendship of old.

It is clear that the dominant Indians mean mischief in this world. They appear strong because of their blinding faith in and loyalty to Russia. With such a strong friend on her Western border and us weaker nations in the East, the only way for us to stem the tide of this Russia/India juggernaut is for all the little peoples of the Eastern world to co-operate, totally trust each other and form a rock solid alliance.

It may take time and we English are still smarting from being the ONLY ever human casualties on this planet – a workboat and a worker. Not even soldiers.

We need confidence first and foremost.

Much talk is going on of religion in many parts of the world. Us heathens and herdsmen do not know of religion but may discover it soon. If we fail we are prepared to convert to your one true religion IF you can establish in each of our cities Judaism. We have 4 cities in the North and two on the islands in the South. Such an action on your part, although costing a little in what I believe is called “Missionaries”, will pay off enormously. Your cash flow will improve and a strong “Alliance of the Star” will be born, with many English converts and such happiness I believe.

This will restore our confidences indeed!

I believe your southern neighbours may also be of the star and I beseech you to work vigorously in dialogs to piece together our future alliance.

We will be negotiating with the Germans and may need your help in drawing borders for the two southern islands. Keep an eye out for an upcoming publication in the "History of the world V" annals.

The points we would like to negotiate as premises for the possible alliance are 1) Membership; 2) tight tech bloc; 3) tight resources trading; 4) a return of lands taken by the powerful nations in the very early years to your selves, the Inca and maybe the French. As long as the Germans and English amicably share the south islands our nations should be sufficient with 6 or so cities each.

I will be informing our oldest of friends, the Inca, of this despatch but it is secret to all others.

Trusting in your respect of this and you will find that the English are second to none as loyal allies.

Yours truly,

Elizabeth I

Strategy

Hail friends and allies,

I thank you all for your support and friendship in the disgusting situation we came into after Tsar Nicholas, the just, has been killed by his son, who started the cruelty.

War is upon us. Especially my people, the americans, may suffer in this. Therfor I'm very thankfull to you, once again, for your support.
I have sent letters to Nolan, Queen of the Chinese, and El Cid, King of the Spanish, as well.
I have not mentioned your names to them.
El Cid has already responded that he is concidering his position, though he clarified that he supports me in his heart, but is not sure yet if he wants to take a public position in this. Therfor I have not included him in this mailing. I have not had a response from the Chinese.

Queen Elizabeth suggested that we should discuss our strategy. In her wisdom she suggested as well that we keep our alliance secret for as long as possible.

I want to suggest the following plan:
- Germany and the Inca's do publicly announce that they remain neutral in this issue and do not want to be bothered.
- France does not speak in public at all, which is what the enemies will expect. As soon as France starts to speak, they will, whatever Dragon says, understand his position in this matter.
- The English declare neutrallity on this issue as well, and make clear that they do not like both parties in the conflit, since England and America have been involved in the German-English war.

This will make the enemies feel like they'll only have to deal with America, and perhaps the French.

Step 1:
- America continues it's war-industry.
Fortunately I just started to build new defence units and are already building catapults in two cities.

- All other countries start their war industry as well

- Germany and France send their units to behind the Indian line of sight, ready to defend the American cities.
They place their units under New York.

Step 2:
- America moves its units to Madras (should be 2 axeman, 3 archers and 2 catapults within 12 turns.

Madras should fall in that case

Step 3:
Russia and India will react. Russia may move to Madras, most Indian troops may move to the southern part of its border with America

Step 4:
The French and German troops move to american/indian borders to protect it against the indian troops

The english and the incan troops move into Russia, this must cause in the russians to draw its troops back to defend

Now India is on it's own against France, Germany and America. We may be able to get India to sign a peace treaty, since Madras already has fallen.
In that case Germany, America and France march on to Russia on the southern border

In case that India does not surrender then the American, France and German troops march on to Delhi and treath the indians to raze it. They WILL sign peace, and we can march to Russia after all

I suggest: whatever the russians as for, we do not sign peace unless the Murderer Tsar is removed from office and Russia has lost at least once city.

If the Russian have already moved their troops prior to step 3, then the english and the incan should intervene earlier, and try to get the russian troops back to it's borders.

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I will give all the money and techs I earn in this conquest or in the attack of Madras to my allies. I will not keep the money myself, not a cent of it.

I will be the one who attacks, my allies can keep themselves 'neutral' for as long as possible, untill the sign is given.
The sign is: "THURSDAY" I suggest.
That's the moment on which all declare war.

If the Indians do not directly try to invade America on the southern borders, but focus on Madras, then I suggest FRance and Germany to keep their forces a secret for a little longer, so we can start to use them if we need a turning of the tide.

Study the map below.
All please confirm this or come with new suggestions.

signed,

Robert

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:08

Re: From the English in HOTW5
My latest despatch to Robert

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Dear Robert - I'm quickly thinking through the seeds of an overall strategy that may be needed:

1) I speak for Inca and English and will keep Inca informed of all my negotiations

2) “The Star Alliance” We need to announce a great alliance BUT ONLY at the right moment (one hour before game start!) and ONLY when all parties are agreed. May I suggest an AIM chat? If you are able to speak for your southern allies then you and I can work out the strategy detail and timeline. Otherwise we should all get in an AIM chat ASAP - English/Inca, German, French & American. I suggest that we maintain Spanish support in a covert manner so that they are not formally part of the alliance, being distant, isolated and vulnerable from China and Russia I fear.

3) The dot points I’d like to discuss include the timing of the cancellation of open borders prior to war; our announced threats prior to actual war; troop movements and synchronisation with each other during war; target cities if necessary etc

Hoping to see you in person to discuss soon!

Your Lizbeth

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:16

Re: From the English in HOTW5

Excellent dear Gustaff!

Just quickly as time escapes me...

* In secret negs with Americans and will become an open ally later on but a secret ally for now for strategic reasons. (We should also be secret allies for now)
* Koinsel Island - your map is needed for us to digest
* England will post a protest only mildy supporting the American position (a bit like yours)
* We wait till the "THURSDAY" cry before declaring any war
* Are you privy to Americas despatches to me - we are coooperating on all strategy as I believe you are

I must rush but look forward to our new alliance,

Yours Liz

BTW the 2 Axemen on the islands need to get to the mainland - may I drop them by boat so they can secretly meander NE to support Americas front if need be? That means leaving just one Archer in each island city for now.

LzPrst wrote on 30th March 2006 12:56 am:
To Queen Elizabeth.
From Gustaf of the Germans

I may be frail and my health is failing, but I am not dead yet. I have seen with great despair upon the growing conflict between America and Russo-India. This war is a disaster for German foreign policy. France and America are our friends, we desire a balance of power in the region.

A mighty and powerful presence of India or Russia in the region is a grave threat to France and by extension ourselves. Therefore I see no other choice than to support America in this conflict.

As to the situation on Koinsel Island. That city was settled by my brother Ulrich who considers all those lands to be his personal domain. Not a very pragmatic view for a would-be successor. Yet he is not ruler yet and I am willing to move the city. However, I am not sure if northwest would be the best location. Not to mention that the city must be razed and its people driven out and resettled from Germany, a highly costly endavour.

This brings forth a poignant issue. What shall be the final division of the Island? We should work together on this issue thoroughly. I suggest we meet and discuss it in private away from the prying eyes of the foul Indian spies. I will send a full map of the island with suggestions for settlement sites that are fair to both our interests.

And finally as to your suggestion of an alliance. We wish a fair alliance between our peoples and gratefully accept your gift of Marble. A great monument will be built to celebrate the union of our two peoples.

Now that we are formal allies; what will be your reaction in the Russo-Indian conflict? Support America openly with men and weapons? Or mere political protest? If we both demand a cessation of hostilities and threaten war, perhaps this conflict can be avoided? I will at first diplomatically support America with an ultimatum to the aggressors, if Russo-India are not deterred, then I will declare war, with likelyhood I may be able to bring France into the fray as well.
Yet I cannot do so without your support. Shall we be allies in war as well as peace?

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:19

Re: The Division of Koinsel
As she runs back quickly to read the latest despatch from our good friend Gustaf...

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You truly are a great and reasonable friend, Gustaf.

The red spot maybe one square Easterly may work to give Germans more cultural latitude; OR another suggestion to avoid excessive cultural conflict in the future (although I'm sure it would cause any war problems) may be to swap our cities (Hastings and Hastings the first!) so that we each have an island?

This may be a better solution in the long run - you get all of Koinsel (4 cities+) and England the East Isle (2 good cities and maybe a third on that small island in between, but fishing rights might be a problem there?

More later...

Liz

LzPrst wrote on 30th March 2006 11:28 am:
To My Dear Queen Elizabeth Ruler of all the English

I have looked over my maps of the western island that we in our German tongue has dubbed Koinsel. I have seen two good sites for settlements and a third less attractive site. I will post to you a map of my suggestions with the eventual border developments for each city.

Germany will move our settlement north of Hastings to the spot I have marked with YELLOW.

We may allow the English to settle upon the RED outlines, but that land is also highly desired by German fishermen. We need to negotiate an agreement that will not hinder Germany's trade routes to the Fatherland. Preferably German fishermen would settle on the RED spot, however, if England greatly desires that land then Germany may agree to forfeit it for some compensation.

Finally, the site I have marked in BLUE is a last potential site for a city, yet it will be a poor and undeveloped village as it lacks resources and has no more than a few square miles of productive land. England could settle there if Germany was given the RED location. If England wishes the RED location then I suggest noone builds on the BLUE site.

This is the initiation of negotiation. I hope you will reply in a favourable manner, yet I am willing to compromise, though not excessively. I am already uprooting German families from their newsettled homes which grieves me greatly. I desire a friendship with England, but we are a proud people and will not accept giving without receiving in kind in return.

Your friend Gustaf, Ruler of the Germans

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:28

Re: Concerns
Dear Robert

cc Sapa Inca, Gustaf

Thankyou for the information. As I am in much haste currently I will be sending you brief despatches as thoughts in our strategic thinking emerge...

I think the Inca/English strategy would be to openly ally and maintain peace and open borders with the enemy until the "THURSDAY" cry. At commencement of the next year England moves all available mainland Axemen (will check the number - currently only 3 or 4) into Inca cities leaving just Archers in our cities. Direct attack on us is unlikely. But being a Monarchy I can only move at a rate that does not cause too much unhappiness in my cities.

So all Inca border cities will be full of combined troops to protect the vulnerable Russian border; and maybe use a few Inca troops, whilst we have Open Borders with Russia, to "have a look around" and see what's in the nearest Russian cities. And then report to you, the Allied Commander in Chief!!

Our troop numbers are not great and England's production capacity is the weakest in the world so war is to be avoided if at all possible. The production of more troops will be slow, except in London where production is good.

I have asked the Germans if I may send two Axemen from the southern islands through German territory to the hidden rear lines in America. This gives you added support and allows England to explore the lie of the land for herself.

Yours Liz

CyberShy wrote on 30th March 2006 02:09 am:
Below you all find the response that I just got from El Cid:

"Thank you for your candor, we cannot express enough the sympathy the Spanish feel for the plight of the Jews. We can not commit troops to a war right now as we are spread very thinly. We are not oppressive people, if Judaism spreads to Spain it will be met with open arms just as Christianity has been. We do not hate people based on their faith, it is ridiculous to do so.

We will try and put political pressure on the aggressors, but again we can do no more than that.

Good luck, and may American live long!"

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:31

Re: Urgent Matters

Thankyou my dear beloved friend and ally

I, Queen of England, am in receipt of your communique but am unavoidably detained and will reply as soon as I may.

Please allow us a bit of time to reply before we announce a strategic or politic position. We are not so sure of what you propose as many English lives have been lost and we stand to gain nothing whether we strategically retreat or advance. It is a decisive moment indeed.

A chat via our messaging system may be in order

Yours truly,

Liz

NicodaMax wrote on 4th April 2006 02:48 am:
Cuzco, 350 AD

To: Elizabeth I, Queen of England (deity)
Adolphe, Ruler of the Germans (Lz
Robert LXVII, King of the Americans
Louis XIV, King of France

From: Huayana Cápac, Sapa Inca, Incan Empire

Most Esteemed Members of the Star Alliance:

I am writing the following to inform you of the current state of affairs in the northern frontlines, to request valuable information and to clarify certain aspects of this alliance.

First, the situation in the English-Incan front is not good. We are at a standstill at the outskirts of Novgorod. English have taken heavy loses and victory can not be guaranteed as the city is heavily defended. English-Incan forces have taken defensive positions in the hills north of the city awaiting reinforcements. We thus need to be informed of the situation on the Southern front and the current state of advance of the American-German-French coalition, if any, on Indian or Russian territory.

This is requested because, as it was accorded in the Star Alliance Treaty signing, this military venture had as its primary objective to allow the Americans and Indians fight it off without Russian intervention, not to attack the Russians themselves. Sadly, the plans to intimidate Russia quickly became all out war as an uncontrolled escalation of aggression took place, with English declaring war in the Indians, the Russians declaring war on the English, and as a result, Inca declaring war on Russia, as we are obligated by the Terms of the Northern Alliance.

The Incan Empire had no problems with the American plans as we thought it would help the balance of powers in the region if they bettered their position against the Russian-Indian threat, but nothing more. We had no intention of entering into armed conflict with Russia or acquiring territory from them as means of enlarging the Incan Empire, and any indications of the opposite will have to be clarified through diplomatic channels. We have to recognize the fact that our actions have righteously been interpreted as part of an expansionist ploy against the Russians, and immediate action needs to be taken to remedy the situation and stop this conflict.

Therefore, we are requesting that it is taken into consideration that:

The Inca Military Forces will not make an attempt on the city of Novgorod and we are requesting that our English Allies do the same.

The Inca wish to offer the Russians a cease fire as soon as possible, even if it means unilaterally withdrawing our forces to defensive positions inside Incan territory.

That we will be asking the Spanish to coordinate and mediate a future Peace summit between our nations in order to stop this senseless bloodshed.

Awaiting a prompt answer,

Sinchi Viracocha, Inca Defense Minister
Lloque Cusi, Inca Minister of the Interior
Manco Machaca, Inca Foreign Affairs Minister

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:32

Re: Urgent Matters

Still haven't got much time to write but I made a post.

Regardless of the war origins, in pure geo-opolitical terms if the Inca do not get Novograd, preferably by peaceful means, you will eventually become totally swamped by Russian culture. They know this so beware any Russian overtures, my friend!!

If they don't agree to cede the city to you, we must use our current military sitiatio to resolve the issue.

If you do not see it as an issue, England will never again partake of an offensive war; but merely, though rigorously, defend our alliance in the future.

The English have lost many brave fighters on the Novograd offensive but still have 3 full strength axes to yet strike in the current year (according to the posted save but I lost sync and am not sure if that was accurate). Have the Inca any remaining strike forces on the current turn year?

If so we should take Novograd on the following year with some fortune.

Else, we should look at the American strategy and tactically retreat to the hill, awaiting a southern army, including two of my axemen, currently south of Madreas, before we make the final assault. The problem with this is that the currently weakened Russian troops will regain strength and new troops will arive (plus they have Theocracy)

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:33

Re: Negotiations The Island Division
Quick communique to Adolphe from Liz.

I think our nations have been very fair with each other in our mutually beneficial dealings.

Because we've been producing axes in our homeland on overdrive; AND because of our distance to the colonies, the help we need is the agreed settler, a workboat and a worker, if at all possible.

The quicker I develop the colonies the quicker I get the English economy ticking over and all tech advances will immediately benefit Germany and the Star Alliance.

We need to ensure that each member of the Alliance rearches a different tech and that no trades are done with non alliance nations. We are currently on Feudalism.

**deity** · August 19, 2006, 02:35

Re: Plans

My dear Huascar!

What a victory!

But such a defeat. It will not always be so though.

Our Northern Alliance has great plans and I apprecaite our friendship greatly. It is important to recognise our alliance quite apart from the Star Alliance, which I fear may crumble with time.

Our tech strategy must be watertight. I have only shared Optics with you and will not trade it to any other nation, not even in the Star Alliance. I believe you share the same view. Are you on Astronimy now? We will have Feudalism in about 6 ages (turns) and Astronomy will take about 125 turns. I suggest whoever can get Astronomy first should go for it. How long will it take the Inca? If the English go for Astronomy I suggest the Inca head for Gunpowder - we'll need solid defence in the future and must maintain a tech advantage.

Therefore, we traded no techs to any other nation that leads to Astronomy or Gunpowder. Do you agree?

The Germans are on Civil Service so I'll get that from them and America is on Theology.

However an ancient secret deal between us and the Spanish, where the English did gift many early techs to the Spanish, may see a return of the favour, IF I can delicately negotiate it. They have Civil Service, Theology and Music I believe and I expect to gain all these techs, in which case the usefulness of the Star Alliance will become quite limited as they will not catch up with us.

If successful we will have the tech lead as no other nations have Optics or Machinery, although I may need to trade Machinery and Feudalism as parting gestures to the Star Alliance.

However I believe in all other respects we remain part of both alliances.

You may have heard rumours about internal disputes in England. Fear not as the Inca aree loved by both Manning and myself, however I believe that one day you may need to negotiate more with him than me.. will tell.

Yours truly,

Liz

NicodaMax wrote on 8th April 2006 12:27 am:
Dearest Elizabeth

Its been difficult to coincide in order to get together and have a chat regarding the upcoming battle, but to answer your inquiries here it is:

Current Inca forces at the Walls of Novgorod:
1 Horse Archer
1 Axeman

Available reinforcements:
1 Axeman (2 tiles from the city)

Reinforcements on production qeue:
2 Axemen on next turn (at least 3 turns to get in possition at Novgorod)

As for your forces, I am unclear as to if you have 5 or 3 Axemen (1 wounded) and 1 Horse archer, 1 Axemen on its way (1 turn)

Intelligence reports of Garrison at Novgorod:
1 Horse Archer (4.9/6)
2 Axemen (3.5 or 0.3/5) and (2.6/5)
1 Spearman (4/4)

This time paradox has shown that in order to reduce a Russian Axemen from 3.5 to 0.3 strength you would lose 2 Axemen on the process...question is, will the 3 combined axemen we have left be able to kill the remaining Axemen (2.6/5), finish off the wounded one (0.3/5)? and then the 2 horse archers would have to take care of the Spearman and the Horse Archer (which looks difficult).
We could try, and if we're unsuccessful then the 2 coming Axemen could finish off the wounded Spear and HA.

I am currently researching Machinery (14 turns)

We shall see,
Your Friend, Huascar

**OzzyKP** · August 28, 2006, 14:35

Thanks for posting all that Deity. I don't have many good PMs from that era, but I do have plenty of AIM chats. I'll post those.

[23:55] Lazer KP: would you agree to a joint delcaration banning Jewish missionaries from our lands?
[23:55] Crostothlay: most certainly
[23:55] Lazer KP: to be psoted in the forums
[23:56] Crostothlay: i do not desire zionist sentiments to stir up any more trouble in the russian empire
[23:57] Crostothlay: i only ask to review the declaration before publication
[23:57] Lazer KP: alright
[23:57] Lazer KP: writing it now
[23:58] Crostothlay: most excellent
[00:10] Lazer KP: To: Robert LXVII, King of America
CC: Spain, England, Mongolia, Germany, France, Inca, China
From: Chanayka, Foreign Minister to King Bimbisara of India & Emelian Pugachev, Chief Advisor to Tzar Ivan III of Russia

After many tumultuous years of civil war in Russia instigated by Zionist Jewish rebels, it is with much alarm that we note the continued spread of American missionaries propagading the poisonious religion of Judaism through the lands of Russia and India. As a joint security measure on the part of the Indo-Russo Alliance against future uprisings and assassinations, Jewish missionaries are no longer welcome in our lands.

The following demands shall be met by America and all other nations seeking to propagate Judaism:

- Jewish missionaries shall not opperate in Russian or Indian lands
- Jewish missionaries shall not travel through Russian or Indian lands
- Jewish missionaries shall not be transported through Russian or Indian territorial waters

If these terms are not met voluntarily, the following sanctions will be taken:

- All American units regardless of purpose shall be forcibly expelled from Russian & Indian lands
- All trade between America & Russia and America & India will cease

Signed,
[00:11] Lazer KP: oh, are you ivan the terible or ivan the great?
[00:11] Crostothlay: ivan the terrible
[00:11] Lazer KP: then you are Ivan IV not III
[00:11] Crostothlay: ivan the great was ivan ii in my version

[00:12] Lazer KP: ok

[00:12] Crostothlay: such terms are acceptable
[00:16] Lazer KP: ok
[00:18] Lazer KP: posted

[00:20] Lazer KP: I used Ivan's name in Russian
[00:20] Crostothlay: so i see

[00:20] Lazer KP: and since I couldn't find Bimbisara, I just used some random punjabi phrase, heh
[00:21] Lazer KP: no one will know the difference, heh
[00:21] Crostothlay: lol
[00:23] Lazer KP: its always more fun to do diplomacy in the thread
[00:23] Crostothlay: secret diplomancy is also a factor in certain eras though

[00:24] Lazer KP: yea
[00:25] Lazer KP: i'm gonna give it a different font. to look more formal
[00:26] Crostothlay: nice

[00:26] Crostothlay: i grabbed the name from some random person in my book
[00:26] Lazer KP: cool
[00:26] Crostothlay: but boris godunov really was a ruler of russia during the times of troubles
[00:27] Lazer KP: cool
[00:27] Crostothlay: later in the week, i may make a post that banishs the fella, or puts him to death
[00:28] Lazer KP: poor guy
[00:28] Crostothlay: heheheh
[00:28] Crostothlay: gonna crucify lots of folks (and make saints out of them, lol)
[00:29] Lazer KP:

[00:33] Lazer KP: ok
[00:33] Lazer KP: is it legible?
[00:33] Crostothlay: yep
[00:34] Lazer KP: good
[01:41] Crostothlay: the lighthouse is now known as vishnu's light
[01:42] Crostothlay: and the hanging gardens is now the heavenly gardens
[01:42] Crostothlay: ivan has a big ego

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