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  • My final (hopefully) comments on the posts.

    I think that the prussia posts are great and should be kept, he can use them to justify an attack on russia.

    The fact that russia didnt do the attack is regardless, he is allowed to make up a daughter and a kidnap attempt, the truth behind the attack is that it was done by Incan CIA members. they did this under government instruction to justify a war.

    This all sounds good to me.


    Diplo is ROLE play as well as GAME play.
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    • Originally posted by deity

      Draft English proposal

      1) All nations remain out of any Sino/Soviet conflict and NOT provide ANY support to either side
      2) Call for all nations to support China’s right to take one Russian city for each FUTURE spy attack
      3) Neutral troops to be stationed along the Spanish, Inca and Indian borders with Russia and China to attempt to police unit gifting
      4) IF any future spy attacks are ever proven to be by a trouble-making third party and not of Russian origin THEN all nations will close all relations with such country (close borders, cancel trades) and discuss the possibility of taking over such country (to be evenly divided, or such nation’s cities gifted to Russia as compensation for cities lost to China.)

      I must admit I was skeptical of your election to Secretary General, I did not believe you had the will for it. However you seem to be doing a great job so far. Your proposal is balanced and appropriate. I am recommending the Indian government enthusiastically support this proposal.

      -Mohandas Gandhi, former Secretary General of the United Nations
      Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

      When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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      • The Begining of the Dissent...

        Leopoldo Calvo Sotelo was the member of Parliament from San Pedro, one of the few remaining Liberal centers of power in Spain. However, he was by no means a liberal; he had served with Franco as, initially, his cheif of staff and then was appointed to his position directly by the dictator himself. Despite this Leopoldo was generally a man of his own ilk, and he understood some of Franco's policies were either mired in nationalist biased or directly against Spain's better interests. Armed with UN Secretary General Brian Thatcher's draft proposal for a solution to the Sino-Soviet tension, he walked calmly into Franco's office...

        "El Caudillo, have you seen Secretary Thatcher's draft proposal?" he said, sitting down in a chair and placing the proposal on the dictator's desk.

        "Leo, I've got a lot on my plate right now, this better not be a waste of time." the dictator said, picking up the document.

        "Well, you know I wouldn't bother you with such things, but this is a matter of grave importance, the first point of-" Franco held his hand up indicating that Leopoldo stop speaking.

        "This is insanity!" the dictator said, slamming the paper onto his desk "How can they make such a proposal, we can't agree to this!"

        "Sir, I understand, the English don't quite seem to realize we are allied to China." he said, adjusting his necktie nervously "Perhaps we should send a missive to Maggie Thatcher, outlining our-" again, the dictator interrupted him.

        "This appeasement is disgusting, I can't stand for it!" Franco yelled, "First that bastard Gandhi accuses us of murder, then he gives Russia a veritable slap on the wrist, now we've got this idiot Thatcher mucking up our operations. I can't take this lightly." the dictator pushed a button on his intercom "Marisol, Marisol!"

        "[Yes Prime Minister Franco]" the voice on the intercom said.

        "I want you to summon Foreign Minister Sanz-Briz, tell him it is of dire importance."

        "[yes of course sir]" she replied.

        "Leopoldo" Franco said, as he composed himself "You will go to Parliament with this as soon as possible, we will have a vote against this proposal. Spain can not be made to ignore their treaty obligations due to the UN, especially not in this manner. This entire draft is ludicrous!"

        "May I speak frankly Prime Minister?" Leopoldo asked nervously.

        "Ugh," Franco said, waving his hand.

        "I believe the majority of the draft is in good form, honestly a lot of it deals with Russian spying, which is huge from England because they hate us. We shouldn't decline this proposal outright, it is only the first point that I think is errant." the dictator looked at him dead in his eye, and didn't say a word "Prime Minister...?"

        "Do what I've told you Leopoldo, get out of my sight..."

        Toledo, Spain...

        "How about this one?" Corporal Ruiz said, it was a simple systems check on Spain's artillery.

        "It looks good sir," private De La Rosa replied, he had been doing this for three hours already and every single weapon was fine "The fact is sir, all of these machines are top of the line, and none of them have been used yet, they should all be tip top."

        "That isn't the point private" the Corporal replied, he was clearly annoyed "Do you want one of these things locking up on you in the field? There's nothing wrong with being prepared."

        "Alright, alright." the private said, "See, its fine."

        The Corporal checked his paperwork "Alright, well I think that should be the last of them, we'd better get back to the General, he wants this report as soon as possible."

        The private pulled off his hat and whiped his forehead "Jesus, its f*ckin hot out here."

        "Yeah," Corporal Ruiz said, "Here, why don't you take this to the General, it will help you out a bit, he likes to see the privates taking some initiative." he handed the paperwork to De La Rosa.

        "Thank you Corporal" he said, as he saluted.

        "Hurry, its almost late." the Corporal said as the soldier nodded and ran away, the Corporal looked around nervously and walked into a latrine, he let out a deep sigh and pulled down his pants and sat down, he then pulled out a peice of paper...

        As usual, you will ingest this document once you have read it.

        Antonio, as you are probably well aware, Franco intends on getting Spain into a costly and pointless world war. While we appreciate your bravery, we have to say that little to nothing has been done on your side. Meanwhile we run with fear not only from Franco's secret police, but also the Soviet government. Suarez-Gonzalez will be arriving in Delhi shortly to write an editorial for the exiled Madrid Monitor, we expect a status report to be sent to this city as soon as you are able. Basically we need you to stymie the movement of soldiers from Toledo in the event of a war with Russia, we trust your judgement and abilities and are sure that you will be able to do your job correctly. There is a man in the Ministry of the Interior named Zapatero, he has more information for you as far as what your mission will be. Again, ingest this document.

        Good luck patriot.
        Corporal Ruiz balled up the small peice of paper and put it in his mouth, chewed it, and swallowed it...
        "Our cause is in the hands of fate. We can not guarantee success. But we can do something better; we can deserve it." -John Adams


        One Love.

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        • The Republic of Spain

          TO: Prime Minister of England, Margaret Thatcher
          FROM: Foreign Minister Angel Sanz-Briz

          We write to you, as allies, concerning the draft proposal of UN Secretary General Brian Thatcher. Quite frankly, Spain is a little concerned about its first point, the one stating as follows...

          All nations remain out of any Sino/Soviet conflict and NOT provide ANY support to either side...
          We must object to this portion of the proposal due to our treaty obligations with China. As members of of the Resource Defense Pact, I don't believe I have to remind you that both England and Spain are part of of this Pact, we have an obligation to our allies to defend the integrity of their borders, thus far we have done a horrible job. Whether you call them spies, agents, or terrorists, the Chinese have been attacked on multiple occasions by faceless cowards. They secretly sneak into China and bomb their factories, their mines, and now they bomb their towns. If Secretary Thatcher seriously believes that we will stand by while the Chinese are assaulted, ignoring our sworn word, he is sorely mistaken. Spain will NOT support this proposal, we are bound by our word and honor to defend our allies and we condemn any attempt by outside forces to stop this from occuring.

          Further, we find it disheartening that a fellow member of the RDP would suggest, or even support, a proposal that ignores its treaty obligations. We hope that you find it within your self to stop Secretary Thatcher from doing this and hope further that we can rely on English help in stopping the terrorist scourge.

          Thank you,

          Angel Sanz-Briz
          Foreign Minister of the Republic of Spain
          "Our cause is in the hands of fate. We can not guarantee success. But we can do something better; we can deserve it." -John Adams


          One Love.

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          • Originally posted by The Capo


            The Republic of Spain

            TO: Prime Minister of England, Margaret Thatcher
            FROM: Foreign Minister Angel Sanz-Briz

            We write to you, as allies, concerning the draft proposal of UN Secretary General Brian Thatcher. Quite frankly, Spain is a little concerned about its first point, the one stating as follows...



            We must object to this portion of the proposal due to our treaty obligations with China. As members of of the Resource Defense Pact, I don't believe I have to remind you that both England and Spain are part of of this Pact, we have an obligation to our allies to defend the integrity of their borders, thus far we have done a horrible job. Whether you call them spies, agents, or terrorists, the Chinese have been attacked on multiple occasions by faceless cowards. They secretly sneak into China and bomb their factories, their mines, and now they bomb their towns. If Secretary Thatcher seriously believes that we will stand by while the Chinese are assaulted, ignoring our sworn word, he is sorely mistaken. Spain will NOT support this proposal, we are bound by our word and honor to defend our allies and we condemn any attempt by outside forces to stop this from occuring.

            Further, we find it disheartening that a fellow member of the RDP would suggest, or even support, a proposal that ignores its treaty obligations. We hope that you find it within your self to stop Secretary Thatcher from doing this and hope further that we can rely on English help in stopping the terrorist scourge.

            Thank you,

            Angel Sanz-Briz
            Foreign Minister of the Republic of Spain
            To: Angel Sanz-Briz, Foreign Minister of the Republic of Spain

            I'm surprised you happened upon this information that was contained in a secret report to my Prime Minister. May I ask how you came by it?

            My PM will not respond directly to it of course.

            However it is true and as the UN Sec Gen I must strive to arrive at a consensus that is biased towards peace and is inclusive of all nations and is balanced.

            Do you not agree?

            Note that England is not formally allied to China but joined the RSP - there is a difference.

            But I emphasise again that I represent the UN and not England.

            I fully concur with the facts as presented by China and yourself and the spies of Russia have committed vile acts. England herself has been a victim too.

            May I suggest that your approach of blindly supporting your ally, particularly if military in nature, may lead to a full world war?

            If you think carefully about my draft proposal you will see that it includes full support for China to punish Russia in a controlled and calculated way with world support. I'm sure they are more than capable of doing this by their own means. BUT the proposal sets limits on what China can do.

            Do you not think that this approach will protect resource security better than a world war?

            However, your response causes me to think of an additional item for the proposal:

            "If China loses ground in her bid to take one Russian city per future act of sabotage China's allies may offer military support by way of gifted units to ensure the objective is achieved."

            Would this satisfy Spain?

            If so I will amend my draft proposal, along with any changes proposed by Margaret and then present it to the UN.

            In addition we may consider a clause that requests all nations cancel all resource and borders arrangements with Russia, however this will hurt both sides.

            [unsigned despatch]
            Last edited by deity; July 7, 2006, 04:42.
            "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
            *deity of THE DEITIANS*
            icq: 8388924

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            • The government-in-exile of the Republic of Russia will like to voice its approval of the proposal tabled by Secretary General Brian Thatcher, as being the best prospect for peace. We urge China to seriously consider and approve of this proposal, and also encourage more nations to show their support.

              Anastasia Romanov
              Prime Minister of the Republic of Russia

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              • The Russian Soviet Socialist Republic

                As usual, the Chinese capitalists are quick to lay the blame upon the RSSR, ignoring the fact that there are many other parties and nations within and without who have reason to engage in such acts of sabotage. Nevertheless, the RSSR strongly condemns the loss of proletriat lives caused by the attacks on Chinese civilian centres. The RSSR also roundly condemns the acts of terrorism in China and elsewhere in the world.

                The RSSR, like most of the rest of the world, does not wish to see an outbreak of war, and is thus willing to work with the UN in order to achieve that. Let it be known, however, that should the enemies of the RSSR take up arms against the workers' paradise, regardless, the RSSR will respond with the full might of history and the proletriat.

                We repeat our demand that the traitorous Romanov be held accountable for crimes against the Russian proletriat.

                Joseph Stalin
                General Secretary of the Supreme Soviet

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                • America is curious to find out what UN proposal everybody is talking about. America hasn't received any UN proposals and is eagerly awaiting it.
                  We do support the UN in finding a solution for the Russian-Chinese conflict. In fact we believe that this issue had already been solved by the former UN secretary general, Ghandi. Did the payment of Russia towards China stop?

                  Abraham Lincoln
                  Prime Minister of America
                  Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                  Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                  • The Russian Soviet Socialist Republic

                    To: Comrade Lincoln
                    CC: The rest of Terra

                    As a matter of fact, the RSSR is still paying the full sum of money to China. The RSSR will like to take this opportunity to point out that it is ludricrous to suggest that the RSSR is responsible for subsequent terrorist attacks. In the first place, the RSSR was not involved in any of the acts of sabotage in China; and yet, as a token to world peace, the RSSR now pays a princely annual sum to the capitalists. It is abundantly clear that the Chinese capitalists are simply looking for an excuse to invade the workers' paradise, and from thence the rest of the world. Do not fall into their insidious trap.

                    Joseph Stalin
                    General Secretary of the Supreme Soviet

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                    • Explosion in the iron mines of Robingthon

                      The proud of Robingthon, the iron mines near the capital of America, has been destroyed. Spies from an unknown foreign nation have been sneaked into the mine and left several bombs, eye witnesses reported.

                      The mine is one of the three huge iron mines of America. The biggest one. An important supplier for the prodiction of Robingthon.


                      The mine before the explosion


                      The explosion

                      153 miners were working in the mine when the explosion occurs. All but one of them died. Only 43 bodies have been found.
                      Al Gore, the only surviving miner, gave a report of what happened: "We were just getting to the surface of the mine for our break when something was trown into the mine from the entrance. It rolled passed me into the dept. I was walking at the front of my 5 co-workers. Then behind me I heard an explosion and I was trowed against the floor. I don't remember anything from there on. I hate it that the mine has been destroyed. All my coleagues are death. If I wouldn't have walked that fast because I had to pee, then I would've been death as well. What should I do now? Mining is my life. I have invented mining, you should know!"


                      Al Gore, the only surviving miner

                      Prime Minister Abraham Lincoln responded quickly to express his mourn and anger. "My heart is with those who are left behind! Those children who're waiting for their father, but their father will never come home. This is a black day in the history of America. We must do everything to find those who did this act of terror to us. And we must do everything to be sure that this won't happen again!". When Lincoln was asked if the rumors about German spies was true he answered: "I've heard that rumor to, but I can't rely on rumors. We'll have to investigate this and we can't blame friendly neighbours just only because of rumors."
                      Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                      Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                      • Originally posted by The Capo


                        The Republic of Spain

                        TO: Prime Minister of England, Margaret Thatcher
                        FROM: Foreign Minister Angel Sanz-Briz

                        We write to you, as allies, concerning the draft proposal of UN Secretary General Brian Thatcher. Quite frankly, Spain is a little concerned about its first point, the one stating as follows...



                        We must object to this portion of the proposal due to our treaty obligations with China. As members of of the Resource Defense Pact, I don't believe I have to remind you that both England and Spain are part of of this Pact, we have an obligation to our allies to defend the integrity of their borders, thus far we have done a horrible job. Whether you call them spies, agents, or terrorists, the Chinese have been attacked on multiple occasions by faceless cowards. They secretly sneak into China and bomb their factories, their mines, and now they bomb their towns. If Secretary Thatcher seriously believes that we will stand by while the Chinese are assaulted, ignoring our sworn word, he is sorely mistaken. Spain will NOT support this proposal, we are bound by our word and honor to defend our allies and we condemn any attempt by outside forces to stop this from occuring.

                        Further, we find it disheartening that a fellow member of the RDP would suggest, or even support, a proposal that ignores its treaty obligations. We hope that you find it within your self to stop Secretary Thatcher from doing this and hope further that we can rely on English help in stopping the terrorist scourge.

                        Thank you,

                        Angel Sanz-Briz
                        Foreign Minister of the Republic of Spain
                        To: Foreign Minister of the Republic of Spain
                        From: Prime Minister of England, Margaret Thatcher

                        My dear Angel,

                        I have absolutely no idea as to what you are referring to youg man.

                        And please, I have shown the courtesy in replying to you directly but in future, when Spain addresses the PM of England would you mind if it came from Spain's head of state?

                        Good day to you sir.
                        "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
                        *deity of THE DEITIANS*
                        icq: 8388924

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                        • To: UN Secretary General, Brian Thatcher
                          From: PM Margaret Thatcher of England

                          Dearest Brian,

                          It seems from unofficial sources your proposals may have legs. I would like you to continue finalising the proposal and submit it to the Security Council post haste.

                          All member nations of Terra need to study it. In particular we need to know the Chinese response.

                          Remember our plan. England is on a war footing and my government is about to pass a special bill. My initial instinct was to go with China and Spain but you have your chance now. I did not expect England to be weilding the power of the UN but now that we are we need to use it intelligently. If you succeed it works for our higher goals. This is both politcally good for me but also bad.

                          Harold Wilson, the Labour leader peacenik is biding his time and will pounce as soon as we put a foot wrong.

                          I'm depending on you Brian

                          Marg
                          "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
                          *deity of THE DEITIANS*
                          icq: 8388924

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                          • UN meeting Session #2 - 1624AD

                            Brian Thathcher stood before the great assembly in [ Delhi ]. This was his big moment and fundamentally more important than the Manhatten Project.

                            Representatives from all nations of Terra seemed to be present.

                            He presented his proposal.

                            "Welcome everyone.

                            We stand on the precipice of a world war. Potentially entire nations could be destroyed.

                            I've sought advise and thought long and hard about the current scenario. China is fully entitled to go to war over the spy attacks that have almost certainly been orchestrated at a national governmental level, despite claims to the contrary.

                            The trick here is to support China and achieve a measure of control over the situation. If China listens to us she will be well rewarded. If Russia listens to us she will be well rewarded. If they don't I believe in the end we will have no winners.

                            What you have before you is a proposal I have circulated. It sounds harsh and blunt, even lacking diplomatic finesse but it cuts through the issue and strikes a balance that may be appealing to all nations of Terra."

                            ---

                            1) All nations to remain out of any Sino/Soviet conflict and NOT provide ANY support to either side
                            2) A call for all nations to support China’s right to take one Russian city for each FUTURE spy attack
                            3) Neutral troops to be stationed along the Spanish, Inca and Indian borders with Russia and China to attempt to police unit gifting
                            4) IF any future spy attacks are ever proven to be by a trouble-making third party and not of Russian origin THEN all nations will close all relations with such country (close borders, cancel trades) and discuss the possibility of taking over such country (to be evenly divided, or such nation’s cities gifted to Russia as compensation for cities lost to China.)
                            5) IF China loses ground in her bid to take one Russian city per future act of sabotage China's allies may offer military support by way of gifted units to ensure the objective is achieved.

                            ---

                            "Well, what do you think? What are your thoughts?"

                            ...........................

                            ---

                            Margaret smiled as she followed the broadcast over lunch. She mused "Would England EVER run out of crabs!"
                            "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
                            *deity of THE DEITIANS*
                            icq: 8388924

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                            • TO: UN Secretary General, Brian Thatcher
                              FROM: President Balaji Vishwanath Bhatt
                              SUBJECT: United Nations Peace Proposal

                              First, congratulations Secretary General Thatcher on your election to your current post. I am glad for your work to again legalize research into nuclear technology, an avenue of research that was untimely banned by your predecessor.

                              My government has looked over your proposal to end the Sino-Soviet conflict and has found it acceptable. God willing it will never need to be activiated, as hopefully the acts of sabatoge have finally stopped. India has long been a supporter of the United Nations and of it's mission to solve conflicts such as this before they develop into terrible, deadly world wars. I applaud you for putting forward a strong but fair proposal. I applaud you also for not only condemning the Russian industrial sabatoge, but also for recognizing the Chinese threat of war is a bigger threat to world peace.

                              India heartily signs its support for this treaty.

                              I do wonder however whether this treaty will apply to other nation's acts of sabatoge? Surely you have heard of an act of sabatoge on an iron mine of our American ally. While there seems to be little proof at the moment, the Americans suspect the Germans who have made threatening and provokitive statements towards the Americans lately. The new government in Germany seems to be joining Spain & China in beating the drums of war. Does the UN have a response to the acts of sabatoge on American soil?

                              Balaji Vishwanath Bhatt
                              President of India
                              Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

                              When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah

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                              • The Russian Soviet Socialist Republic

                                The RSSR protests the motion by the Secretary General of the UN for two reasons. Firstly, nowhere is there a provision for an unprovoked attack upon the RSSR by the capitalist Chinese. Is the RSSR to stand alone against the demonic war machine of Capitalist China, when that happens? Secondly, nowhere is there any reference to the crimes wrought in the name of the Romanovs, and the trial that is to follow. These are grave omissions that need to be addressed immeadiatedly.

                                In the interest of fairness, the RSSR will refrain from proposing the necessary amendments to the motion; instead, the RSSR will allow the delegates of the UN to make such proposals, and comment on them where necessary.

                                Joseph Stalin
                                General Secretary of the Supreme Soviet

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