comparison game for woodan and whom else

[Boracks]

Loaded fine for me (on a mac running XP).

[Krill]

Oh holy **** marathon? Oh well **** it.

Is 45 turns to research BW normal as the second tech?

OT: One comlaint I've always had against his map script is that it is incredibly bland, and the best thing to do with new cities is to always turn them into cottage cities if there are no food res, as epr usual. It really does need to increase the amount of resources present for the rescaled map sizes.

[Brael]

I noticed that with the resources, oh well. My SE game is incredibly weak, with the AI difficulty of this map it's probably a solid handicap, plus lets me practice.

And yes, that's normal for BW. 45 turns on marathon is 15 turns on normal.

[brandonjm8]

Thanks for this, Brandon.

I'm probably not going to be able to start until the weekend. This is turning out to be a slammed work week for me.

no problem, this game will take 1-2 weeks for most, me included with the size of map, a domination win wouldnt be possible til mid-late game anyways. just remember to post your details when you do start and goodluck.

[brandonjm8]

I'm not a great builder but here you go, forgot to save at 1 ad and my autosaves are every 5 turns because I didn't change that from reinstalling yet so you get a 10 ad save. Figured it was better to save at 10 than go replay 3 turns. I do have a few session starts, civ crashed on me once, I loaded once around 400 bc to check out your 1000 ad save you posted, and I closed civ out entirely a couple times.

Double holy city=$

I've got good potential to have a triple holy city too, depending on how much the AI wants to cooperate with not researching Divine Right and my luck with rigging where the holy city goes. I got lucky with this one, I mistimed it and my missionary would have reached the city over by the silver too late, but I got some natural spread. Optics first, then dealing with a potential third religion.

I decided to go SE but don't really have it up and running yet, it was probably a bad choice given how few food resources there are, but oh well. Getting beaten to the hanging gardens hurt too, health poor continent.

Edit, I looked at your game Brandon... you shouldn't delay alphabet like that, building research owns.

a SE approach will do wonders, this continent has plenty of grasslands and with all those religions and with angkor wat, SE should do you wonders once you get aqueduct's and harbors, not to mention once you get astronomy and start trading resources. there isnt much resources period, , but a whole lotta seafood and two rice, all strategic resources thank god.

i delayed alphabet cuz i was wonder whoring, i admit it . i got pyramids, great wall, parthenon, stonehenge, angkor wat, AP, and a few others already, my science is actually quite good and i still have some buildings left to build with my huge expansion coming up.

[brandonjm8]

Since I was the OP in the other thread that started this, I'll give it a shot, will take awhile since playtime is limited.

Going to be a totally different game with no barbs/spies/events/tech trading but with city flipping after conquest and complete kills (6 options different from what I usually play - but that's the beauty of Civ).

I'll try to remember and post the updates.

goodluck, with lack of variety of resources on our continent and no one to trade with early, will be a challenge to not get too far behind so as to not become an early target for the 6 civs close to us, goodluck again. remember the posts if you can, as long as its close to the times given, all good.

[brandonjm8]

Oh holy **** marathon? Oh well **** it.

Is 45 turns to research BW normal as the second tech?

OT: One comlaint I've always had against his map script is that it is incredibly bland, and the best thing to do with new cities is to always turn them into cottage cities if there are no food res, as epr usual. It really does need to increase the amount of resources present for the rescaled map sizes.

you do see all the seafood resources right? i give you this, our variety aint the greatest. as far as resource generation, its the same as one in other maps, it is scaled for size too, later in the game you will see what i mean once you've mapped the other 6 continents. we got unlucky and got our own continent with not much variety of resources.

[Brael]

a SE approach will do wonders, this continent has plenty of grasslands and with all those religions and with angkor wat, SE should do you wonders once you get aqueduct's and harbors, not to mention once you get astronomy and start trading resources. there isnt much resources period, , but a whole lotta seafood and two rice, all strategic resources thank god.

i delayed alphabet cuz i was wonder whoring, i admit it . i got pyramids, great wall, parthenon, stonehenge, angkor wat, AP, and a few others already, my science is actually quite good and i still have some buildings left to build with my huge expansion coming up.

There's no point to a wonder that doesn't help you. If you're running an SE I assume you can already use artists to pop borders, that makes stonehenge useless (and it obsoletes at calendar), angkor wat I didn't go for, but I did get the pyramids, parthenon, AP, colossus, great lighthouse, and great library. The only one I missed so far that I wanted was the hanging gardens, but I'll manage without.

The double (hopefully triple) holy city will do wonders too, but I'm going to need to get wall street to start bringing in the huge benefits of that. A city like that with a corporation or two also placed in it is capable of generating 6000+ gold per turn on a map this size. Notice how I also set it up as the starting city so I'll have the food to run TONS of merchants to further take advantage of the multiplier effect WS will bring.

[brandonjm8]

There's no point to a wonder that doesn't help you. If you're running an SE I assume you can already use artists to pop borders, that makes stonehenge useless (and it obsoletes at calendar), angkor wat I didn't go for, but I did get the pyramids, parthenon, AP, colossus, great lighthouse, and great library. The only one I missed so far that I wanted was the hanging gardens, but I'll manage without.

The double (hopefully triple) holy city will do wonders too, but I'm going to need to get wall street to start bringing in the huge benefits of that. A city like that with a corporation or two also placed in it is capable of generating 6000+ gold per turn on a map this size. Notice how I also set it up as the starting city so I'll have the food to run TONS of merchants to further take advantage of the multiplier effect WS will bring.

i got angkor wat, and three religions thus far, i have many priests already and with rep they add to the beakers too. my GP rate is ridiculous in my cap, WS will be going there too for money obviously. i only pop a artist if i need too, once monuments become useless i could simply build culture, or since i was able to get sistine chapel this game, i could pop a worker for the culture points til i get the fat cross. my religions were spread to three different cities for me tho . remember forests add health , i tried not too chop so much inside the fat cross but rather just outside it to keep some of the added health, even with harbors and aqueducts, once my cities hit 13 or so i start to run into the health problems. goodluck.

[Brael]

Make that a triple holy city oh and Sankore/Minaret before 1k AD. I saw you had a few religions but you had them in different cities. Having them in the same city lets you take advantage of more multipliers.

I'll have the 1k save up soon.

[Brael]

~60 turns from liberalism, I think I'll hit that first, will use the free tech to take either astronomy or economics. Either way, I'm closing in on corporation to WS my big money maker. Picked up circumnavigation in 985, not really interested in anymore wonders for awhile so it's just about time to build my military up a little and start the rapid expansion. One city for settlers/units, one for religion spread, and giving preference to coastal cities to take advantage of the GL/Colossus should let me expand almost endlessly without any worry of my income. It's too bad I don't have cottages going right now, I'm running a profit with 100% to science.

[Boracks]

Here's the 1 AD, got aced on most religions and oracle, managed to get Taoism of all things.

With no barbs and neighbours, and lots of woods, I'm probably not building enough workers. And I accidentally built an axeman, thought I'd wait to maceman to build up the army.

Lousy return from huts, first three totalled 250 gold and a map. I only built one warrior, so except for the two warriors (starting and built), all warriors and scouts came from huts.

Note to Brael: With BTS, Stonehenge (and monuments) obsolete at Astronomy, not Calendar.

Man, this plays like a totally different game so far.

[Brael]

Ya, I slacked on workers too, I'm doing them now actually. I only had 7 for 12 cities, a normal game I should be running 12 or so for that. Going to build up to 20 now that I've got Civil Service and can start chaining my farms around.

And good to know with stonehenge, I saw monuments went obsolete with astronomy but I was thinking stonehenge went out earlier. That's a nice boost for it, I'm usually not big on building it though, maybe if I played an IND civ I would.

[brandonjm8]

heres my 1500 A.D. game save

im cruising, expanding fast, science is pretty good, i think im in the tech lead

i circumnavigated the map in 1464 A.D. turn 627, anybody else write theirs down?

goodluck.

[brandonjm8]

i was beat to the colussus and GL, i was <10 turns on both same with hagia sophia . alright i think i remember em all: stonehenge, pyramids, parthenon, great wall, great library, angkor wat, sistine chapel, that university one that gives +2 beakers per religion building, AP, taj mahal, all three shrines, i know im missing something i think, oh well.

cruising with only 60% science, around 400+ now, im in tech lead i think, everyones bigger than me so far, got 19 cities and growing fast, ive been steadily building units, almost everyones stronger than me , got the horse time to make some knights, working on astronomy right now, should alleviate the health hopefully then my cities can get huge, no happiness problems, discovered a gems from one of my mines, helped. im hoping to get liberalism first but want those observatories and trades first, if i miss it i think i'll be alright. with all these religions and angkor wat, i can build an army fast if needed, converted 3 civs to my religion thus far, converting one more, gonna get some powerful allies hopefully to watch me back