What is the best civ/leader combo for MP?

[rah]

Willaim financial/creative never makes me sad when I get him in MP games. Since we play on a single landmass, his UU isn't the best but can be fun.

[Ming]

I enjoy getting Louis XIV on the random draw. Creative is a big early plus in MP games, and Ind helps if you want to build a few key wonders. His UU is a solid one. Muskets with movement can be combined with mounted units to create some real quick moving stacks. His UB comes a tad late for our games, but is reasonably useful if we get to that stage. It sure beats the heck out of "shopping malls".

I'm not a big fan of the Americans... a UB and UU that we usually never get too.

[wodan11]

Yeah, you've mentioned that a few time.

Yeah when I see drill IV longbowman, I'll go after someone else while waiting for cannons.
Even though I've never played FFH, I assume cannons work better than archmages.

Cannons in FFH work better than fireballs in FFH, sometimes. But Fireballs work better than cannons in BtS (because fireballs can inflict collateral without risking the death of your unit).

[wodan11]

No cannons, so no comparison. FFH plays like a role-playing game based on combat rather than character development. Some folks in the accompanying mods did some great, unrecognizable stuff with the basic build & fight game engine. Really unrecognizable, in FFH's case.

I quickly moved from FFH to Fall Further and Fall Further Plus.

[Blaupanzer]

Are they using rifles, cannons, and such?

[rah]

WE can talk about attack capabilities and strength numbers instead of whatever label they're given.

Whats the counter for fireballing?

[wodan11]

There really isn't a counter for fireballing. The general counter for mages is to use assassins. Assassins get the marksman promotion which allow them to fight the weakest defending unit in the stack, which pretty much are going to be mages.

There's also drill which is a good general counter for collateral damage. (Fireballs can either knock down the defensive % of walls or they can do collateral.)

Also, there is a protection from fire promotion you could get on some units if you really wanted. I don't usually bother with it though.

[rah]

I may have to try that out for a change of pace.

[Blaupanzer]

So, rah, have you had a chance to give FFH a look?

[rah]

No, not yet, but I plan too.

[Thoth]

It's a lot of fun, and a whole new game. Be prepared for a couple of low-sleep nights.

[Blaupanzer]

As if the current game let us sleep.

[Ming]

Just ONE MORE turn

[-Jrabbit]

Since when does this group settle for ONE more turn?

[Thoth]

I usually settle for playing one more turn than I should.


alright, maybe just one more after that