At the End of Growth.

[slnz]

Are you sure part 1 is right? My guess had been that the point of unhappiness I can't account for came from there. I suspect this works like the city garrison programming. (When your city has no garrison, the unhappiness jumps up immediately then seems to increase gradually.) I haven't tested the food/unhappiness ratio at all. Have you? Would be useful to know who dies first in an occupied city in this state. One of the old owner's, one of mine, how much unhappiness, if any.

Yes I'm sure. You can easily check what the unhappiness consists of by mousing over the unhappy faces. Different causes of unhappiness give different messages.

[Blaupanzer]

slnz, right you are. Somewhere in the back of my head, I knew that. Thanks for sticking in there.

[rah]

So if your city is starving, it impacts happiness?

[Blaupanzer]

No it does not.

[rah]

Good, though I was missing something there. In normal circumstances it wouldn't be an issue, but I was thinking about when you have the odd food issue in the late game and you're in that starvation/growth cycle.

[wodan11]

The only way that impacts it is if you're right on the bubble of happiness (perhaps for WLTK day) and the +1/-1 situation makes the city go into/out of happiness every time it starves down or regrows.

[Theben]

I just never worry about it in most cases... Maybe in my Capital or one other key city, but frankly, who cares

this

[rah]

Yeah, in mp games I don't have time for such silliness. I'm more concerned about military issues.

[Blaupanzer]

You are all right I should ease up. When this is the biggest problem, either I am smoothsailing, or I am not pressing the AIs hard enough.

[Ming]

I can understand how perfectionists might be bothered by the alternating starvation... And as Rah says, in MP games, there are more important things to do if you are on the timer. But even in SP games, trying to manage something like that seems way to tedious for my tastes. There are far more other tedious things to be doing if you are playing at the highest levels.

[rah]

Too tedious
Think back to CIV II going for the highest score challenge that we had.
All those hours spent moving food caravans to max your pop.
That was tedious.