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  • #31
    Originally posted by Dale

    For instance, as an Aussie it is perfectly legal for me to use certain things that someone else legally cannot.
    I just wonder: Is it legal for You, because You are an Aussie, or is it legal for You, because You are in Australia ? What if You took Your laptop (theoretically) full of "modified" (in the sense of this thread of course) installations to another country ? I think law is bound to location, not nationality of a person, right ? I mean a dutch person cant smoke weed here in Germany (legally) either...

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    • #32
      yes, you are totally right Dale. I agree. Poly decides if it is allowed to smoke in her house, because it is her house. but still, I think we should be allowed to talk, in her house, about smoking, and let eachother know if it is a good idea to start smoking...

      sorry, but it is just a dutch trait I think. we tend to question everything that has to do with policies. nice new trait for a next CIV version!

      disobediant: get a -1 relation with the other civ, but a 50% less chance of being attacked by that civ (because the civ regards you as a non-dangerous, bigmouth, not worth it to be attacked)

      MC

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      • #33
        I think if, for example, an Aussie was using no CD cracks for something in OZ on a laptop, and went to the US, where No CD cracks would be illegal, the US would be shooting itself in the foot; You can't take CDs onto a plane with you (or shouldn't be) because they are easily snapped and the edge of a snapped CD is incredably sharp, and can easily be used as a weapon...
        You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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        • #34
          hmm, krill, you are stronger than me, apparently - i dont find it easy to snap a CD at all. I stand there, with my head turned, my eyes half closed, holding the CD as far away from me as i can, clench my teeth, doing "nnnngggghhh"-sounds and snorts and all it does is bend a bit...

          But in fact, i did bring CDs to the states once - but i had checked them in... on arrival, i actually had my luggage searched (they pulled me out, cause i had returned after merely two weeks, without a return-ticket on me - after having been in the states for half a year - gosh i almost crapped my pants in that office - this guys dont know no fun, and it was me, who just stood in line for two hours, after a 9 hour flight - and i did miss my connecting flight).

          Right now, i´d advise ANYBODY just to not go to the states at all unless you really have to, cause the authorities treat you like s***, you stand in line forever under gigantic flags and are suspected to be a criminal right away and you are being treated that way - they say it´s the land of the free, but you feel like you are going to prison, having to give fingerprints and a biometric foto being made - couldnt have been worse in Tempelhof (Berlin) in 1936 or so... - US-citizens get through right away tho... it´s rediculous - or rather erie... the arrival in america gives most germans goose-bumps of the worst kind these days... (this was in denver 2006)

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          • #35
            I work as a care worker; snapped CDs are one of the most common methods of creating a weapon for either self harm or to attack staff. I've never snapped a CD before in my life...
            You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Unimatrix11
              it´s rediculous - or rather erie... the arrival in america gives most germans goose-bumps of the worst kind these days... (this was in denver 2006)
              As an American, and a student of history, I have to agree that the parallels between Homeland Security and the early days of the SS/Gestopo are downright scary. Our crackdown on freedoms in this country is just overkill. Ben Franklin once said 'Anyone who is willing to forgo personal freedom for a little security will soon find they have none."

              What we need is stricter enforcement of current laws rather and punishing the guilty rather than persecuting the innocent.

              Mike

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              • #37
                oh - sorry - had i known, i would have not made that joke, krill. I had no idea.

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                • #38
                  Actually I just tried to snap a DVD. Took me 5 seconds I had half a DVD with a sharp enough point to slice open a vein...
                  You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by mkorin


                    As an American, and a student of history, I have to agree that the parallels between Homeland Security and the early days of the SS/Gestopo are downright scary. Our crackdown on freedoms in this country is just overkill. Ben Franklin once said 'Anyone who is willing to forgo personal freedom for a little security will soon find they have none."

                    What we need is stricter enforcement of current laws rather and punishing the guilty rather than persecuting the innocent.

                    Mike
                    Yeah it´s like, when i had to fill out these little green cards with all those ´funny´ questions and came to the one asking, if i was a member of the nazi-regime (yes / no - and it even says if you check "yes" you should report to ground staff immediately), i felt tempted to scribble to the side "are you ? think about it"...

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                    • #40
                      Nah, It's not a problem to me.
                      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Krill
                        Actually I just tried to snap a DVD. Took me 5 seconds I had half a DVD with a sharp enough point to slice open a vein...
                        Yeah, i know its not that hard - it was intended to be a visual joke... again: i had no idea about the seriousness behind it...

                        EDIT: First time i threadjack and feel its totally okay

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                        • #42
                          See? If this thread had been immediately locked or deleted it couldn't have evolved into this interesting discussion of how the US is giving up it's liberty.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mkorin


                            As an American, and a student of history, I have to agree that the parallels between Homeland Security and the early days of the SS/Gestopo are downright scary. Our crackdown on freedoms in this country is just overkill. Ben Franklin once said 'Anyone who is willing to forgo personal freedom for a little security will soon find they have none."

                            What we need is stricter enforcement of current laws rather and punishing the guilty rather than persecuting the innocent.

                            Mike
                            You're a terrible history student. Typically, history students in university consume large amounts of marijuana and end up working at 711's, so this does not bode well.

                            Right now, i´d advise ANYBODY just to not go to the states at all unless you really have to, cause the authorities treat you like s***, you stand in line forever under gigantic flags and are suspected to be a criminal right away and you are being treated that way - they say it´s the land of the free, but you feel like you are going to prison
                            Is this a thread on no cd hacks? Out with the crazy germans complaining about large flags in airport terminals.

                            I think if, for example, an Aussie was using no CD cracks for something in OZ on a laptop, and went to the US, where No CD cracks would be illegal, the US would be shooting itself in the foot; You can't take CDs onto a plane with you (or shouldn't be) because they are easily snapped and the edge of a snapped CD is incredably sharp, and can easily be used as a weapon...
                            It doesn't matter if you bring a knife on an airplane, you aren't getting anything done with it these days. And I don't think the cracks for legitimate users are illegal here. Can anyone point me to an instance where the DMCA was used to prosecute someone who legitimately owns a game/software for using a no-cd crack? The answer is no, and if you read the first provision of the act you'll figure out why.

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                            • #44
                              Another reason not to visit america these days just came to my mind...

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                              • #45
                                OMG I HAVE TOO WAIT IN LINE FOR AN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT?!?! WITH LARRRGE FLAGS?? AND WOMEN WHO ARE ACTUALLY HOT?? WHO CAN STAND AMERICUH!??!

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