A Trebu-shame

[ahenobarb]

Everytime I use trebuchets to take a city, not a single one of them remains after the seige. Is this programmed in or are the trebuchets just vulnerable?

BTW: running BtS.

[Jvstin]

Re: A Trebu-shame(Siege changes in BTS)

Originally posted by ahenobarb
Everytime I use trebuchets to take a city, not a single one of them remains after the seige. Is this programmed in or are the trebuchets just vulnerable?

BTW: running BtS.

Siege weapons have been changed in BTS:


Siege units have been tweaked significantly in BTS to aid play balance. Siege Units now have a "Maximum Damage" limit. When a Siege Unit attacks, it may cause damage up to its damage limit before withdrawing. No unit with health below a Siege Unit's damage limit can be attacked by a Siege Unit. Defending Siege Units may still destroy attacking Units.

In addition, some Mounted and Helicopter Units now receive a Flank Attack against Siege Units. When attacking a stack of units containing Siege Units, these special Mounted Units will damage any Siege Units in that stack so long as the Mounted Unit survives Combat. This means that a Mounted Unit with the Flank Attack ability which retreats from combat will still damage Siege Units.


I would guess that this is to reduce the tendency of making stacks of 8 trebs and one or two guard units running around conquering cities.

[ahenobarb]

Yes, it appears they are also a lot more frail. I was attacking with stacks of cataphracts (6-8), macemen (2-4), longbowmen (1-2), supported by 4 trebuchets. However, in capturing around 15 cities only 1 trebuchet ever survived the assault. Each time I had to wait for a new set of trebuchets to be built before moving on.

The opponent didn't have any significant amount of mounted units. I guess they are just bumped up in the damage line for units during seiges.

[anhalibut]

The city raider promotion for your trebs may help them survive, but 4 trebs in a stack doesn't sound like near enough for a sustained offensive. Unless they're backed up by a steady stream of reinforcements.

[couerdelion]

Re: A Trebu-shame

Originally posted by ahenobarb
Everytime I use trebuchets to take a city, not a single one of them remains after the seige. Is this programmed in or are the trebuchets just vulnerable?

BTW: running BtS.

This is one of the best things that has happened to Civ4

The biggest imbalance in the original game was the overpowered artillery and trebs were in a league of their own.

To follow on from jvstin’s comment, the no-brainer strategy of sending the artillery into the breach to capture the key fortified positions of a city doesn’t work. Now the human warmonger has to think a bit more

[Pinchak]

They nerfed seige units? Sweet.

[Ijuin]

Is trebuchet pronounced the French way i.e. treh-boo-shay?

[Jvstin]

Considering how its shorthand is "Treb" (pronounced tr-ebb), yes, I would say so.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Pinchak
They nerfed seige units? Sweet.

Yep... the days of a stack of 20 cats and a couple of ax man are over

[nbarclay]

Originally posted by Ijuin
Is trebuchet pronounced the French way i.e. treh-boo-shay?

If I remember correctly from the History Channel, I've generally heard it pronounced with a long u sound in the second syllable.

[ghen]

Originally posted by Ijuin
Is trebuchet pronounced the French way i.e. treh-boo-shay?

trěb’yə-shět’ from wiktionary but thats impossible to read anyway.

I pronounce it Trehb-you-shaye, though I used to say "Trench Bucket" when I was a kid =)

[ghen]

dp

[Nugog]

Originally posted by Ming


Yep... the days of a stack of 20 cats and a couple of ax man are over