New: Warlords patch v2.13, Civ4 Vanilla patch v1.74

[Hercules]

Re: Kinda fixed...

Originally posted by blehmann
Turns out that updating my DirectX worked. I was at 9.0c, and am now still at 9.0c, but it's now a later version.



Also, all my preferences have been erased. Graphics, audio, options, all gone.

All in all, not the slickest of patches that I've seen.

- Brian Q.

QFT

[DrSpike]

Why are 'changes' listed that were already in force?

[Nikolai]

At last it's out! I thought they've never come to it.

[Tattila the Hun]

Originally posted by DrSpike
Why are 'changes' listed that were already in force?

Ay, Kublai/Qin and Stalin's music thingy have been around for ages... (Others too, I presume.)


Well, for a patch, anyhood.

[wodan11]

I guess it goes without saying that we should remove BetterHandicaps and all that when we upgrade?

Wodan

[snoopy369]

I think that you might have to reinstall them, probably don't have to uninstall them first.

DrSpike, I think that is a cumulative change log. I don't think 1.74/2.13 is changing nearly that much, but I couldn't say exactly how much.

[RP21]

On the vanilla list, everything from the word "Changes" on down is from the v1.61 Readme file. Looks like they just lost the heading.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by snoopy369
DrSpike, I think that is a cumulative change log. I don't think 1.74/2.13 is changing nearly that much, but I couldn't say exactly how much.

It would appear so, which is pretty irritating. I don't want to be suspicious but it kinda looks like they've dropped the usual patch reporting conventions in order to make it seem like owners of the older games are getting an update for free.

[wodan11]

Originally posted by snoopy369
I think that you might have to reinstall them, probably don't have to uninstall them first.

I'm saying why would you want them at all, because the same AI improvements (from BetterAI and BetterHandicaps) are built into BtS and the new Warlords patch, actually, we can assume that Blake improved on the last version of his mods for the official release.

So it makes no sense to "reinstall" BetterAI if you have the Warlords patch and/or BtS installed. This is like going backwards... installing a worse version of the AI.

Wodan

[DrSpike]

Well unless you've seen a post to the contrary from Blake it seems a bit of a leap to assume that all of his improvements made it into BtS.

My guess would be that Firaxis would be concerned about making the game too hard, so some of the improvements (those not offset by the reduced AI bonuses) would have been held back.

[Jaybe]

Blake, has your improved AI made it into these Warlords/Vanilla patches to any great extent??

I'm playing a W2.13 game (still waiting for BtS).

[Hercules]

Got the patches and Directx update to work at last. When you find it

It is the directx_ jun2007_redist.exe that works. It is the 55MB size one.

I saved it to Window system directory and then went there and found DXSETUP.exe. and clicked.

Forget about April2007.

[wodan11]

Originally posted by DrSpike
Well unless you've seen a post to the contrary from Blake it seems a bit of a leap to assume that all of his improvements made it into BtS.

My guess would be that Firaxis would be concerned about making the game too hard, so some of the improvements (those not offset by the reduced AI bonuses) would have been held back.

Yes but unless I totally misunderstand how the CustomAssets works, then I believe you have to make a choice: either BetterAI, or Warlords 2.13. If you install both, you are going to be running the BetterAI routines.

Wodan

[DrSpike]

Well I don't want to be ungenerous but that does not seem to be your argument in your previous post.

Originally posted by wodan11

I'm saying why would you want them at all, because the same AI improvements (from BetterAI and BetterHandicaps) are built into BtS and the new Warlords patch, actually, we can assume that Blake improved on the last version of his mods for the official release.

So it makes no sense to "reinstall" BetterAI if you have the Warlords patch and/or BtS installed. This is like going backwards... installing a worse version of the AI.

Wodan

[snoopy369]

Some of Blake's improvements made it into Warlords 2.08, actually...