An interesting bug

[Jaybe]

The manual says just +1, Qwert.

[padillah]

Yeah, +1 for religious buildings.

I guess Monuments are regligious buildings.

Tom P.

[GeoModder]

My guess is that Monuments aren't religious buildings.

[Proteus_MST]

Don´t know if it is a bug or should be this way:
The great wall keeps barbs from entering your borders (which of course is no bug ) but once inside of them, they can move and pillage around freely.

Happened to a bunch of barbarian archers. While they stood just outside of my cultural borders (small island, there was little place to stand somewhere else ) my cultural borders expanded, so that the barbs suddenly were located inside of my cultural borders.
The result was that they moved around within my territory and razed tile improvements (O.K., they just managed to destroy one of my quarries before my cossacks were able to finish them, but they could have done more damage if I had let them continue)

[MoonWolf]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST
Don´t know if it is a bug or should be this way:
The great wall keeps barbs from entering your borders (which of course is no bug ) but once inside of them, they can move and pillage around freely.

Happened to a bunch of barbarian archers. While they stood just outside of my cultural borders (small island, there was little place to stand somewhere else ) my cultural borders expanded, so that the barbs suddenly were located inside of my cultural borders.
The result was that they moved around within my territory and razed tile improvements (O.K., they just managed to destroy one of my quarries before my cossacks were able to finish them, but they could have done more damage if I had let them continue)

Thanks, didn't know that. Have some stuck barbarian archers on the very south of my continent and kind a hoped they would "jump" to my neighbours' land

[Proteus_MST]

But it could be that I´m wrong.
After reading some postings within a thread dedicated to the great wall in the Civfanatics forum:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=179452&page=1

it looks like the reason for the barbs entering the civ borders was just that the cities weren´t located on the continent where I built the great wall.
As I saw them 2 turns before the incident, approaching my cultural borders, it is possible, that, even if my borders hadn´t expanded just the moment that the archers were next to them, the archers would have entered nevertheless, even without any expansion of the borders.

So if this is true, IMHO this would make it an "undocumented design feature", as AFAIK it isn´t mentioned within the description for the great wall, that it only works on the same continent.

[MoonWolf]

We'll see how they behave in my game. My cities that will "expand" are build long after the great wall.

[padillah]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST
So if this is true, IMHO this would make it an "undocumented design feature", as AFAIK it isn´t mentioned within the description for the great wall, that it only works on the same continent.

Um, it's mentioned in the popup...



... and in the pedia...



... So what part is "undocumented"?

Tom P.

[Proteus_MST]

My fault.

As it wasn´t documented within the manual (at least the german version of the manual I have) I assumed it wasn´t documented within the game (and therefore didn´t check)

[padillah]

Oh, sorry. I didn't check the manual. And I would only have the English one anyway.

Tom P.

[Qwertqwert]

Originally posted by Jaybe
The manual says just +1, Qwert.

The Civlopedia says something wierd. When playing a charaismatic civ, it says +1 happiness, and in another part it says +1 for charaismatic civs. And when playing a non charaismatic civ, it doesn't say anything about happiness. Made it confusing.