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Originally posted by E
I think we fixed that bug and ctp2 seems real fast now. I guess I'm going to have to give the Ctp2 Alex Scenario a whirl now...
When was that? I think I tried it 6 months ago or so and the problem was still there and I wasn't able to fix it (in the limited time I had). Either way, I'd still very much like to see that new version released, it'd be a waste of an amazing scenario not to and I'd consider it a tribute to the greatest scenario maker the Civ community has ever had. If you could look into it and fix the problem if it still exists, I'd gladly find some time to finalise my work on it. The newest version (or something very close to it) is here.
Thanks Locutus. I'll try it tonight (or later this week) and I'll post any news on it to the thread you linked to. So as not to hijack this thread.
To stay OnTopic I'm interested to see how Warlords is received. I have played Civ4 its a good game and I like how smooth some of the features are. Unfortunately, graphics modding is beyond me and thats one of my favorie things to do.
I will say that I like what Dale has done modding it. If Ctp2 trade routes, piracy, franchises and slavery concepts are added I feel my ctp2 interest would be in jeopardy.
Originally posted by Locutus
There was a time when dropping the name Harlan was enough. Alas, people don't know their history anymore
Harlan's scenarios (whether for CtP2 or Civ2) are great because they are incredibly rich and accurate in historical texture (I don't think I've ever met anyone who knew more about history than Harlan, myself included). They offer good, well-balanced and very challenging gameplay (including a good AI that actually fights back, something that many scenarios lack) and they always offer innovative gameplay concepts (his LotR scenario for Civ2 in 1996 even completely revolutionised scenario making at the time). He can translate historical concepts and events to gameplay elements like noone else. There aren't really two or three features you can name that make his scenarios great, as Solver says you have to play them to understand.
Many reviewers at the time rated the Alexander scenario higher than the regular game, it was described as a game in itself. And even today Harlan's Civ2 scenarios are still regarded as some of the finest ever made for that game even though some of them are 10 years old. Definitely not nostalgia...
Ugh... instead of waxing poetically (which smells like nostaglia, though I'm not accusing you of such ), what exactly made it so good. Saying his scenarios in general were good historically and had innovative gameplay concepts says NOTHING ABOUT THE SPECIFIC SCENARIO.
It's like someone telling me to buy Pirates! (the new one) just because of all the wonderful things Sid Meier has done while not saying a word of how they work in this new game.
And I ain't buying CTP2 to play a scenario...
I'll just chaulk it up to nostalgia until someone gets mad at that characterization and tells me why that Alexander Scen was supposedly so good. .
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Nevermind, Locutus, it seems that Thedrin was above the nostalgia .
Originally posted by Thedrin
Well, I just found this (contains spoilers) which does give some information about the way the scenario was set out. Sounds good.
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CtP2 is worth it, Imran, even now. I believe Civ4 is the better game, but CtP2, in its current versions, can still be quite fun. Certainly if you've never played it, just to see what it's like.
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“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Ugh... instead of waxing poetically (which smells like nostaglia, though I'm not accusing you of such ), what exactly made it so good. Saying his scenarios in general were good historically and had innovative gameplay concepts says NOTHING ABOUT THE SPECIFIC SCENARIO.
All those things apply to all his scenarios, including Alexander the Great. How else can I explain it? The link Thedrin found lists a few of the features in it, but not nearly everything. Making a complete list would probably take me a day (not in the last place because you also have to explain a lot about the default game to understand the improvements Harlan made). And a list of features still doesn't tell you anything about the scenario itself. CtP2 has a list of features many civ fans would in theory like to see in Civ4 as well, yet many also think that in practice CtP2 sucks donkey balls (quite wrongly of course, but it's a free world, people have the right to be wrong )
E, just downloaded the latest playtest from my sig to try myself but can't get it to run, I seem to be missing some files and (after hot-fixing that as good as I could) it's complaining about gw.txt missing entries Will mess with it a bit more and complain in the appropriate forum. Do you have IM?
E, just downloaded the latest playtest from my sig to try myself but can't get it to run, I seem to be missing some files and (after hot-fixing that as good as I could) it's complaining about gw.txt missing entries Will mess with it a bit more and complain in the appropriate forum. Do you have IM?
Locutus my build is just a patch to the 10.23.2005 playtest which might be the problem for your files. As for the gw.txt yeah thats pop-up HERE i didn't get a chance to fix it (gw is from a global warming fix martin did)
the link above is also the placeto post your complaints too of course.
As for Civ4 vs Ctp2. i'll refrain from that fight though i've been there myself. they are just two different games. And don't blame ctp2 for ctp1 thats like attacking civ4 for civ3
I only wish I coul dget everything I like about ctp2, civ3, and civ4 all in one game :hmm:
All those things apply to all his scenarios, including Alexander the Great. How else can I explain it?
Duh... by saying what specific things there were in the scen. Hence why it seems like nostalgia when you didn't even name one thing in the scenario.
And DrSpike . Ditto .
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Great detail, great events scripting, great concepts, amazing polish. The idea of making the ring a nuke that you had to get to Mordor (via a land-transport Frodo unit who was invisible) was just brilliant.
Originally posted by Arrian
I remember the CivII LotR scenario he did.
Great detail, great events scripting, great concepts, amazing polish. The idea of making the ring a nuke that you had to get to Mordor (via a land-transport Frodo unit who was invisible) was just brilliant.
-Arrian
Might be something nice to see again...
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