Undocumented 1.61 changes?

[Xuenay]

Could you please list them here as you catch 'em, folks? I'd love to see a full list so I can savor the way the game is yet again improving. Not to mention that I won't be able to touch Civ4 in over a week - assuming that the new patch will even have made it finally run on my machine.

[Willem]

When you enter the Top 5 Cities/Wonders screen in Info, you can no longer see who's in the game without having met them first. It used to show the top 5 cities whether you had met the civ or not. Same with Wonders.

Oh yeah, the Grocer and Marketplace icons appear to be switched. However that's actually a fix as they were reversed before.

[Badtz Maru]

I'm pretty sure that the Civics screen didn't have those large pictures of the icons for the selected civics before.

Is the option to highlight city radii when a Settler is selected documented?

[Blake]

Undocumented things that I've observed:
1) Civic costs are lower for non-organized civs at emperor+.
2) Barbarians spawn slower on slower game speeds. (it's more proportional now)
3) Anarchy scales better with game speed. On Marathon it used to be 1 turn to switch 1 civic, it's now 2 turns to switch 1 civic, 3 turns to switch 2 civics..
4) Unit costs increased on Epic to be proportional to game speed. Ie: Buildings cost 50% more so units cost 50% more too. Used to be units only cost 25% more. Marathon costs are unchanged. (this has been "sort of" documented if you happen to hang out at RBCiv)

[Tattila the Hun]

Originally posted by Blake

3) Anarchy scales better with game speed. On Marathon it used to be 1 turn to switch 1 civic, it's now 2 turns to switch 1 civic, 3 turns to switch 2 civics..

I thought this was dependant of you empire's size?

Anyways, the... texts that tell you about world events are now multicolored. ZOMG!

[Nacht]

Originally posted by Blake
4) Unit costs increased on Epic to be proportional to game speed. Ie: Buildings cost 50% more so units cost 50% more too. Used to be units only cost 25% more.

So that's why Solver kept insisting on Epic having proportional buildings/units costs.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Tattila the Hun


I thought this was dependant of you empire's size?

It is, but the base times have also been adjusted.

[Willem]

I just thought of another one. Apparently you can build Forts on Forests without losing it. I haven't tried it myself to make sure it really is possible though.

[awckie]

Custom Game screen actually saves your last choices (except for # of players and name)

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by Nacht

So that's why Solver kept insisting on Epic having proportional buildings/units costs.

Hehe... Yeah, after so long time, it's no surprise we forget what is changed and not.

[Solver]

I sometimes still mix up how things are now and how they were in some pre-release version... numbers and bonuses have changed more times than you can shake a stick at.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Solver
I sometimes still mix up how things are now and how they were in some pre-release version... numbers and bonuses have changed more times than you can shake a stick at.

Just wait until you start getting into Warlords, you'll be hopelessly confused then.

[Solver]

I'm already on Warlords, and yeah, I'm sure I'll be totally confused after a couple more weeks of it .

[Willem]

Originally posted by Solver
I'm already on Warlords, and yeah, I'm sure I'll be totally confused after a couple more weeks of it .

When do you think they might release more information? I'm dying to know who the other civs are. And when we can expect it to come out.

[ScreamingCube]

Anyone know if they allow multi-civ Permanent Alliances now? Really sucked having that turned off. At least have an option where you can set the number of allowable alliances!